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 Posted 07/11/2015  12:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHoarder64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin has perfecty straight lines running on the obverse and reverse of the coin. I think it is PMD but I can't think of anything that would cause "wear" like that. It weighs 11.17g

Could this be some kind of error?

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I can't tell for sure, but it may have been polished with a dremel tool. Die scratches on a die would only affect the fields. You coin appears to be weaken in design because of the polishing. So I'm leaning towards PSD.
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07/11/2015 12:41 pm
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 Posted 07/11/2015  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_kid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with coop, someone probably put it in a dremel tool. Or they might have used sandpaper.
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Are these lines raised or incuse? Maybe that is a stupid question - if it were sandpaper or Dremel, I know they would be both! However, it ought to be possible to tell where the original surface had been - in the valley or the raised portion?


Also, to CCF
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07/11/2015 10:31 am
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 Posted 07/11/2015  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its tough to be sure with these photos. Is there some tiny pitting in the fields? Perhaps an experiment trying to learn Whizzing.
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Incuse

I don't see any pitting anywhere. Actually now that I look at it more, it appears that there is small pitting in front of JFK's nose. Or at least I think its pitting...

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07/11/2015 10:59 am
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Is there any possibility that the lines could be planchet striations?
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That is what I thought at first, but the rims indicate that it was fully struck. It is some form of PSD.
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the rims indicate that it was fully struck


What should the rims look like with planchet striations?
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On the last picture at about 7 oclock there are scratches on the rim that follow suit into the fields. I think someone took sandpaper to this and then it went back into circulation for a bit and wore down the coin a bit more.
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I was just reading about planchet striations on the Ike Group. There is a rather lengthy discussion. One take away I have is that they are incuse. Another is that when the striation lines meet the vertical side of a device, they continue up the vertical side without break and then they continue across the device without break. A third take away is the lines run in the same direction on the Obverse as on the Reverse.

I cannot really tell from these photos...does that description apply here or not? If it does - then it must be planchet striations and if not, then I am thinking something like sandpaper.

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07/11/2015 2:19 pm
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If you blow up the last picture you can see that the lines DIG (and I mean seriously DIG) into the rims. That's not stiration.
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Planchet striations are smoothed out by a full strike, so no way they are planchet striations.
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07/11/2015 3:02 pm
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Someone just had too much time on their hands.
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