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Hawaii Dollar Supposedly Unc Details? U Got To Be Kidding

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This coin is listed on one of the national auction websites. I cannot believe that this coin was graded UNC details! It is probably at best VF details.

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 Posted 07/23/2015  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. This is most likely a misprint on the label.
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I don't know anything about Hawaiian dollars but I would think there should be more detail on hair, beard ,& mustache .
I'll go with VF also.
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 Posted 07/23/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Concur this is mis-graded ... likely a label printing error.

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 Posted 07/23/2015  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller, a well known retailer, is selling it as graded and asking $699. Have to question their grading ability
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Buy the coin and not the slab. Sleazy profit-blinded capitalists.
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 Posted 07/23/2015  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Buy the coin and not the slab. Sleazy profit-blinded capitalists.


As a self-identifying member of the "Sleazy profit-blinded capitalists" I take great offense
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I fear the slab may be tampered with, but more likely, it may just be a label misprint.

Cert pulls up as a 10995/1883 Hawaii $1, non-SC holder, flagged GENUINE, UNC, and DETAILS code 98 (damage/NOS)

My money's on what PCGS euphemistically calls a "Data Entry Error." It's not covered by the GGA (Guarantee Resub) refund program.





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I wonder if and how a buyback would work with a details coin if somebody wanted to go that route with this guy?
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You are correct with
"at best VF details".

I suspect a fake slab.

Until the coin is taken out of the slab, it cannot be investigated properly. Because of this, there remains the possibility that the coin may also be fake.
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PCGS is starting to stand for People Can't Grade ........Seriously. that. Hawaiin piece is a total joke. I am firmly convinced that PCGS is motivated only by the fantastic revenues they continue to generate.
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That looks like tape residue outside the corners if the coin, not haze from cracking the slab. See how uniform the pattern areas are. And personally I don't see anything suspect with the label color or font but I am halfeye tired right now
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PCGS graded some of my large cents VF details that are solid AU details this week. They were previously in PCGS AU details holders and I was seeing if they could come back as straight grades, instead they gave me VF details!! Not even close. Maybe they messed this coin up for one of mine? LOL
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There are quite a few misprinted labels, it happens more than you'd expect. Another good reason to buy the coin and not the slab.
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 Posted 07/24/2015  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CartwheelCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is most certainly not an uncirculated coin. A shame that some individuals opt to profit off obvious errors rather than do right by all parties involved.

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I wonder if it's one of the new slabs, one of those that literally falls apart in your hands?

(I recently got a coin back from them and it was sealed tight as a drum. But not all of their recent coins/new slabs have been!)
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