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1835 Capped Bust 1/2 Dime - Variety Verification

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Hi,

I wish to know exactly what is going on with the variety classification for this coin since I cannot seem to find anything regarding the most predominant feature on the reverse.

So far I think I have drilled down to the coin being a variety LM-7, Obv. 1, Rev DD.

Someone has cleaned this coin since in real life the coin is very shiny.

I pretty much have produced photos using diffusion that do not accentuate the whiz marks that well.

Here are the shots of the entire obv. and rev.:


1835-Capped-Bust-1/2-Dime---Variety-Verification

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Here is an additional photo of the elevated metal near the chin:

1835-Capped-Bust-1/2-Dime---Variety-Verification

Does this appear to be a die clash from the rev. wing?
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And finally, the area and condition on the reverse that has me baffled:

1835-Capped-Bust-1/2-Dime---Variety-Verification


1835-Capped-Bust-1/2-Dime---Variety-Verification

1835-Capped-Bust-1/2-Dime---Variety-Verification

It appears to remain consistently below the lettering, the eagle neck feathers and the shield on the breast etc.

If some varietal designation exists for this, I'd love to know the name and how it would affect the initial categorization I opined with.

On the other hand, if this is something undiscovered or important should I get excited or not?

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Could the reverse be the result of a lamination?
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rev looks like a lamination, possibly detached before striking. The feature before the face on the obv is an example of ghosting. Not that unusual on capped bust Half Dimes.
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07/28/2015 5:51 pm
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It is hard to tell from images if if detached before the strike. If it didn't, then the areas affected would be weak, kind of ghost like in the area of the lamination. From the images it is hard to tell if those devices are weaken or strong. (the would be strong if the lamination fell off before the strike) The cleanings and whizing drop the value for this coin, but I feel it is still a collectible. But the value would be reduced some. How much? Hard to say.
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I went with before strike because if it fell away after strike I would have expected a major reduction in the height of the scroll where it passes through the lamination area.

What worries me about pre-strike is I am surprised the field of the die didn't flatten out the roughness of the lamination more.
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