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BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4591 Posts	Posted 07/28/2015 12:04 pm http://www.ebay.com/itm/252022923842 The lot was advertised: "Circulated/Uncirculated:Uncirculated Certification Number:F5377H, F5378H Mint Location:Philadelphia Grade:MS63, MS60 Country/Region of Manufacture:United States Year:1922 & 1923 Certification:ANACS Composition:Silver 2 uncirculated Peace Silver Dollars > 1922 & 1923 These were graded MS63 & MS60 by ANACS before 1980. I talked with an ANACS rep and he explained this was how graded coins were before slabs were used. They came in flips with a paper insert with the coin's details and a photo accompanied the coin. The back of the photo has an official ANACS sticker that explains coin grading. Only 1 of these coins has its original photo." What I received are two silver dollars in flips with the typewritten ANACS cards and shown. And the photo from the ANACS photocert, with the top (showing date, grade, etc.) neatly sliced off. Deceptive? Or Precise? Neither coin is proveably certified by ANACS. Although you could come close comparing the photo to one of the coin. You might even be able to match the typewriter (small sample, however) The listing never said it had the photocert - and the listing photo chopped off the photocert just below the cut so it wasn't obvious. As advertised the ANACS photo is included (a large part of the sticker on the reverse is still present). But only the photo. The consensus from the grade me please is that the '22 is probably MS63 (a couple said 62, one said 64). And the '23 ranged from AU58 to MS61. Close enough... at $65 I didn't overpay wildly. The flips have the ANACS sticky label that would have sealed them when returned. But not the little polyfilm bags ANACS used. I just can't get rid of the slimey feeling. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff

moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 07/28/2015 12:20 pm We've all been through that feeling of slime, and it is, unfortunately, something that you have to go through personally to gain the strength of knowledge to pass on such offerings in the future. It doesn't matter how many times you read or are told the good advice of "Don't expect to find treasures if they are not evident from the outset." I think everyone with a little experience will admit to a silly blunder in buying something and hoping it was worth a lot more than it really was. It is a requisite for gaining that knowledge and it can only be learned by personal experience. For what you paid for these two dollars, you might have over paid by a small bit. But not a huge bit. Feel happy that you learned this lesson so cheaply. I know many, myself included, who would have preferred to learn this lesson so inexpensively. Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 07/28/2015 12:33 pm If you don't like the fact the photo-cert is defaced I would return it as it was not made obvious in the listing. Other than that fact I see nothing glaring in my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 07/28/2015 12:33 pm It's actually precise. The 1923 is a match to the photo, you can tell by the cheek marks. It's the 60/60. The 1922 is the unmatched one. imo it was a legit auction, and the buyer got a decent deal. Those are the original ANACS flips with the type written cards and barcodes. I wish I would have seen the auction. You're fine, like you say the only thing missing is the little polyfilm bags, no biggie. Edited by edweather 07/28/2015 12:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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