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1859.. Variety Haxby # .."If Possible"..

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 Posted 08/05/2015  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"Thanks very much for reporting this coin; it is definitely a new combination. It just remains to determine what."


Thanks again Don..Your email was tucked far far away and strangely sent to "spam".

I too am having trouble with the super restrictive > 100 kb max here. I'll also try to take a few more pics of stem #9 in the sun..

It's so close to E23a but the stem at 9 is not like the larger stem in the H3 or exactly like the E23a either.. ..



This #9 stem is a bit thicker as it reaches the leaf but without any breaks as it touches the leaf.

A couple of re-cut slips also show into the leaf,..but not that far in... and this is very similar to the slips in the E23a.

Please let me know of other pics that might help on other areas of this 59..and I will send whatever pics are needed .

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The 2nd to last photo here might be the best at this point to work with..when viewing the stem at 9..
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 Posted 08/05/2015  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DEVLEC I have copied a couple of these photos and re enhanced them and sent them ---now its a waiting game
Cheers Don

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Cheers Don

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Here I am to weigh in (finally). It took Don to point out to me that this thread was on the forum. I've been very busy the last few weeks seeing to my retirement details and making a fast trip to New York.

Now to the new discovery. Yes, the obverse is Obv. 37, yes the reverse die is in the E group and yes, it has repunching of the O of ONE similar to that seen on E23a. So, yes to 37 + E23a? No. There are some wee problems:

1. On the face of it, it seemed unlikely to me that the new reverse die coupled with Obv. 37 could be E23a, as E23a is in the middle (not the end) of a series of reverses with Obv. 21.

2. It has already been noted that the detail of the last half of Stem 9 and the slip up onto Leaf 9 really seems to be different on the two reverses.

3. A comparison of the position of the 9 in the date (by overlaying of date photos) shows a clear difference between the two reverses.

In short, E23a and the die in the new combination with Obv. 37 are not the same. I'll have to do a little more checking, but my strong suspicion at this point is that this piece represents a new die pair with a previously unlisted reverse. If that is true, we have some interesting numbering implications. That issue, however, I'll reserve for a separate thread I'll start. It deals specifically with the numbering for my 1859 catalog.

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 Posted 08/06/2015  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks JHax for taking the time to look at, possible new die combo this is great news
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Thanks again for the expert feedback on this exciting new find..

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Here are a few sharper views of stem # 9..

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