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1986-D LMC - Clash? Scratch? What?

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It looks like this could be about where the underside of Lincoln's Nose might be...could it be a clash? Is it a scratch? What is it? Thanks for any help on this.



1986-D-LMC---Clash?-Scratch?-What?

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1986-D-LMC---Clash?-Scratch?-What?
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Looks like the die field in that was affected by a contact mark? (the bays are part of the dies outside part. So an contact mark to that area could make a raised area on the coins.
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It's too high up to be clash from his nose. I think it can be a die chip?
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Looks like the die field in that was affected by a contact mark?


How do you tell that the contact was not from a die clash?
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It's too high up to be clash from his nose.


Looks like you are correct about that - it is more where the mouth or lip might be?
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Here is an overlay of a 1990-S Cent:
1986-D-LMC---Clash?-Scratch?-What?
1986-D-LMC---Clash?-Scratch?-What?
1986-D-LMC---Clash?-Scratch?-What?



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I was looking at an earlier overlay you had posted, coop. I'm a little confused by their differences!

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This was the first one I was comparing - Maybe it needs to be closer to the year in question?:


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I first picked the 2000-s, and then later thought of another one that was closer in date to your coin. The design on the obverse/reverse changes a bit every once in a while. So getting an overlay closer to the date will show us a better idea of the clash pattern for a certain year. That is the difference.
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I tried my own overlay for this coin. The quality is nowhere as good as yours, coop, but here it is (comments?):



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It works. Note the die clash is close to that area, but does not show in that direction. (your image need a bit of contrast added to it and it would be perfect. Great job)
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I made the overlay I little less opaque - looks like the mark is not from the mouth, either. Perhaps it is a scratch and not a clash? Not sure about a chip...(?)



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Coop - thanks for your help and encouragement on this!
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Not a die chip. A die dent or gouge?
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Any chance that's a gas bubble?
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A die dent or gouge?


Okay - a die dent seems like a distinct possibility...but how do you tell the difference between a scratch, a dent, and a gouge? I have no idea how to do that!!1
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