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1989 LMC Trail Dies Questions

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I suppose the first question is have I identified it correctly as Trail Dies? If so which one? The only similar one I find on traildies.com is 1989P-1DER-009T and it does not seem to be an exact match. Mostly concentrated around EPU, but I am seeing them on other areas as well. Each time I look at it I seem to find more. I apologize for the quality of the pics, I found it very challenging shooting through the loupe with my phone.


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Not a trail die. Die scratches from abrading the die.
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John is correct. Die scratches in that area. Another thing that some think are tails is the rolling lines that are left over from the striking of the coin. 1989-LMC-Trail-Dies-Questions
You can see on this image the rolling lines (on the stock material) do not go away with the striking of the coin.

The best way to tell is to look where the trail lines originate. If they are near the corners of a device at an angle, you are on the right tract.
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Sometimes they even affect the shape of the devices:
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Taking images are a bit tricky. Most of the time you have to angle the coin to get these to appear. (a straight on show may not show these easily) So tilting the coin will show minor ones, but the stronger ones are more desirable.
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Thanks for the help guys. I think I am seeing the difference now. The trail lines are thicker where they connect to the devices, narrowing as they move away. The lines on my coin are just thin uniform lines connecting the devices, no tapering effect. Am I interpreting this correctly? (top photo is from traildies.com)


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Pretty neat; they do look like trail lines close up. But there seems to be a bit of a curve to them as well, so not a trail die.
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Wow SheltieGuy1966,
You got BJ to chime in,nice.
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Quote:
You got BJ to chime in,nice.


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You need to get BJ and Mike and Coop to chime in to be famous
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With me when they chime in I usually end up infamous rether than famous
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I first coined these "Trails" in 2003. The cause is still unknown with varying opinions presented over the years.

Here is a decent one on a 2006-P Oregon State Quarter.


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And let us not forget Mr. Potter. His opinion is commensurate.
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Rackster, you guys still remember me?! LOL Have been busy living life.
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As it should be Ken !
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