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I'm guessing you mean wide rim since there is no collar on a coin. This rim looks normal to me. I see the inner design rim which is on the obverse die and I see some slight finning from metal protruding up between the obverse die and the collar die. All look normal.
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I'm guessing you mean wide rim since there is no collar on a coin. I am referring to the following reference on wide collar (Please see the obverse of the 1918 cent): http://www.error-ref.com/?s=wide+collarQuote:
This rim looks normal to me To me, the rim below the date looks normal - quite different from the rim above the head. Edited by Pete2226
08/10/2015 7:04 pm
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I see now Pete. A wide collar error means the diameter of the collar is over the tolerance for the coin's diameter. So to fetermine a wide collar error you must check the diameter of the coin. Just looking at the rim thickness is not enough. Did you check the diameter of the coin?
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To me it looks slightly misaligned to the southeast. But I'm new and don't know much. I'm sure others will chime in.
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Did you check the diameter of the coin? See the first sentence of the OP. |
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You're right! You did. Sorry. Then you just have a slight misaligned die (like you suggested in the title) with some finning at the top. A wide collar will always be a larger diameter.
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A wide collar will always be a larger diameter. Well, of course this coin has a larger diameter! It is just such a tiny bit larger, however. What I do not understand is how much larger does it have to be to earn the attribution of a wide collar? It seems rather subjective to me. My coin looks very much like the photo of the 1918 cent on the previous site I referenced! It also looks very much like the 1972 JFK on the site reference below with a MAD, except the part of my coin opposite the "Double Rim" doesn't look like the one in the example. So all this is why I am confused! Here is the JFK (my reverse is also different than this one): http://www.error-ref.com/?s=mis...ned+die |
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I think your first step in searching for wide collar errors is to research the tolerances for coin diameters. I tried to help you out and look it up quick but I couldn't find it. A wide collar error isn't subjective. It is simply larger than the upper limit for the coin's diameter. Maybe someone on the forum here has the diameter tolerances handy and can help out.
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To me it looks like the coin was dropped. The area in question is not rounded like the rest of the rim in that area. That is what I see.
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To me it looks like the coin was dropped. What does that mean? Are you saying someone dropped it on the floor? |
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I think your first step in searching for wide collar errors is to research the tolerances for coin diameters. I tried to help you out and look it up quick but I couldn't find it. Thanks for trying - I couldn't find it either! |
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yes and damage the edge. It happens.
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yes and damage the edge. It happens. I cannot see how dropping it on the floor could damage the edge around 1/2 of the circumference! That just does not seem possible to me! Have you actually seen that happen? |
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Something scraped the coin from 1 to 6 o'clock. Any chance that whatever caused that damage also attacked the rim?
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Something scraped the coin from 1 to 6 o'clock. Any chance that whatever caused that damage also attacked the rim? To me that looks like counting/rolling machine damage. I have never seen that have such an impact on the rim. It is like there are 2 rims! That is what I am so confused about!!  |
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Posted 08/10/2015 6:56 pm
