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Are Error NCLT Coins Valuable ?

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 Posted 08/13/2015  5:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coin_Enthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just received a coin from the RCM from the songbirds of Canada (2015) series - the magnolia warbler.

There is a very evident error on the top right of the coin.

Should I get a replacement from the mint or are errors valuable?

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 Posted 08/13/2015  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO that is not an error; it's a defect. I'd get a replacement.

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Yes I meant defect.

Ok I will call and get a replacement, thanks :)
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 Posted 08/13/2015  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If these kind of abnormalities are considered "error" and worth something more, I would be rich.

In the last few months, I have been sending at least one coin per month back to the Mint for exchange because of defects. For some of them I have to send the replacement back because it is also defective.

I am thoroughly disappointed with the Mint. Used to be excited when my orders arrived from the Mint and I could enjoy the coins, but these days I am just anxious and hoping the coins have no defect.
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are errors valuable?


Yes, but this is not one of them. Errors are few and far between for NCLT coins. An error would be something like a misspelling, wrong date, wrong picture, wrong initials, etc.
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An error would be something like a misspelling, wrong date, wrong picture, wrong initials, etc.


Technically those would be varieties. A true error is something unique and not a part of the die...off center, brockage clip etc. The coin you have is a minor strike through which technically is an error. I would also consider it worth no premium though. If you get one that is double struck of has rotated dies or a strange obvious defect of some sort than hold on to it for good.
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Lots of so called error coins sell on ebay for inflated prices , the lines are blurred between real error coins and defects etc and nice premiums are being paid for both.




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Many people have emailed about possible error coins that they have found in circulation. Discovering an error coin can be a rewarding experience and it may often result in a nice profit. Error coins recognized by the American Numismatic Association are those that are legitimate mint processing errors and they come in several forms. The best place to obtain information about coin errors is to puchase a coin guide.

Modern Day Minting Process
Modern day minting starts with a strip of metal that has been specifically produced for the manufacturing of coins. Each sheet is fabricated to the tolerances provided by the mint. The process begins with taking a strip of metal and then blanking out coins in a press. The blank coins are known as planchets. One mint error is when the blank planchet escapes the coining process and ends up in a mint bag of coins.

A defective planchet is caused from impurities in the metal itself that is used to make a coin. The surface of the coin will appear ragged and often times the inner metal may show such as the clad in a dime or a quarter. A lamination error occurs when the surface of the coin looks like it is peeling off. A lamination error is caused by impurities in the metal used in the blanking process or by some debris that was in the stamping dies. A split or broken planchet occurs when there is a line on the coin which is actually a crack. Anotherl mint processing error is caused from the blanking process where a piece of the blank is missing. When a piece of the blank is missing the coin is called a clipped planchet. Clipped planchets come in several forms; curved clips, ragged clips, and a host of others; all having missing metal.

Minting Errors
If a planchet is too thick it will cause some of the obverse or reverse detail to be missing or lightly stamped. In addition to thick planchet errors there are errors where a coin is minted on the incorrect planchet. These errors occur when stock from one coin batch is mixed with another. There have been some issues with the State Quarters being minted on dollar stock. These coins are rare in circulation since most of them are caught by banks and coin dealers before they get out into circulation.

Die errors are another kind of error that in recent times has been slowed by the upgrading of the mint dies and the re-polishing of the dies on a frequent basis. Some mint errors are caused by the coin being stamped out of the collar. The coins that are minted out of the collar are larger than a normal coin because the metal expands with out a device holding the coins circumference. Collectors call these coins broad struck. In addition coins could actually be double struck in the press.

Double dies are another type of mint error. These types of errors are extremely rare and as evidence of this is the low frequency of coins that are notably double die errors. The most famous double die error remains the 1955 Lincoln Cent.

Other types of minting errors are in the form of die cracks which leave a rough line across the path of the die break on the surface of the coins. The minting of the coin will leave a ridge of metal across the surface of the coin. There are also die breaks that cause indentations in the coin.

Double mint marks are caused by re-punching a die inaccurately causing a double mint mark or a dual mint mark on a coin. These errors are widely known as RPM's.

An OMM or over mint mark is when a die has been uncleanly changed from one mint mark to another. Coins minted in with these dies appear to have one mint mark stamped over another such as S over D.

Another type of error that is worth noting is the rotated coin error. These coins are partially rotated from the natural rotating of 180 degrees. This type of error should not happen with modern day coinage since the mint stamps both the obverse and reverse at the same time.

I have not named all of the possible die errors, but I have named the most popular.


http://www.ebay.com/gds/Error-coins...95401/g.html
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Lots of so called error coins sell on ebay for inflated prices , the lines are blurred between real error coins and defects etc and nice premiums are being paid for both.


"Rotated sticker" on Haunted Canada coin;
"Shadow" legs on GITD first coin
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Error coins on ebay are almost entirely circulation coins. There are hardly any NCLT coins with errors.

People who collect NCLT want perfect coins. Coins with flaws will be sent back to the mint.

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"Rotated sticker" on Haunted Canada coin;
"Shadow" legs on GITD first coin


Ya thats what I mean by the lines are blurred, are these error coins by definition of accepted errors? No, "but" they are an error in the fact that they are not made the way they were designed to be made, so some could conclude that in fact they are "error" coins.

Either way if a buyer wants to pay a premium for them then thats their business I guess.
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We even have "error" holders now... someone will buy it no doubt.

2014 CANADA $10 GRIZZLY BEAR SILVER COIN NGC PF70 MATTE, ERROR HOLDER

Up for sale is a 2014 Canada $10 The Gizzly. This coin is graded by NGC as PF70 Matte. But they made a mistake on the label they have it has a $100 coin instead as a $10 coin. Please see pictures

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2014-CANADA-...em28055a9d5f
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Mechanical Error...

2007 Kangaroo 1oz.silver PCGS PR68 DCAM Mechanical Error, Pop 3

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2007-Kangaro...em43c4dd33b2
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Bullion coin error...$2000 us with 61 offers.

2008-W SILVER EAGLE W 2007 REVERSE NGC MS-70 RARE ERROR


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2008-W-SILVE...em4ceb592a81
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Mule error NCLT ....

MULE ERROR UK Royal Mint 2014 Lunar Horse .999 silver 1 oz coin BU

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/MULE-ERROR-U...em3cfcdab248
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For anyone with computer skills, download the image of NGC 2003 inverted hologram, #1876651-007, the picture does not do the error justice as in hand, the coin is lasered upside down, one of a few error NCLT coins. Image not showing at NGC, but is at Heritage site where I purchase Dec.27,2012
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Here it is John. I guess I posted it in another thread as well lol.

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http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/cana...1252-61039.s
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