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Did you ever try looking up the id # via pcgs cert page? Nothing to me screams fake....
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I did in fact look up the ID number, I guess you didn't bother to. One of the coin's numbers doesn't appear, but the other one does. There are two coins, both MS63. The first one I took pictures of the number doesn't check out but the last picture I have, that coin checks out. So even though only one number checks out, I'm thinking both could be fake slabs. I doubt one slab is fake and the other is real.  |
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This is the one that didn't check out.  |
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PCGS uses special label colors for different pedigrees and special series; e.g. Saddle Ridge Hoard = gold foil labels, etc.
In this case, the "Carson City Collection" was simply a "bought" pedigree label by a company named Goldline, not some numismatically-significant hoard or recovery like Saddle Ridge, SS Central America, or Omaha or Redfield.
I suspect they were trying to fool people into thinking it was related to the very real Carson City Hoard.
I ran across one other PCGS example of this, #08516067, which checks out legit, so I am quite interested in your non-validating #2 coin. It may be a label misprint or the work of someone up to no good. Not sure which.
Bizarrely, all the ones I can find in either NGC or PCGS holders are 1890-CC's.
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My first thinking was a long dose of direct sunlight on the label, in a dealer's street window.
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@sDAVE...So then the back of the label should be a different shade/color then the front. The whole look of the slab makes me feel uncomfortable and if I had to guess...id say they just look a tad bit off
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My buddy purchased these two coins from some company, at the same time, sadly for $2500 total. Now as for the silver coloring, he has a 2011 panda with the same exact silver label color. I attached photos of it just for reference to the label color, I know it's not a U.S. coin and I apologize. Going back to the CC's, I'll ask to see which company exactly he purchased these Morgan's from. Thank you for the help so far.   |
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Noting that one of the numbers doesn't check out, may I ask what looks good?
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The second one looks good and the close up of the mint mark helps, plus the coin verifies in the PCGS system. I suggest calling PCGS and see if they can verify the first one. Might just be a glitch in the system.
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Here are my concerns with the first coin #08516127. The lower hair details look mushy, the CC mint appears to be large and the coin is baggy for a MS63, but it could be your photos. My gut is that the coin is genuine. Can you post photos of the first coin that are similar to the second coin?
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Thank you for the help @slider23 however I cannot post any more picture currently as these are all I have. The coins are in my friends possession. @edweather I emailed PCGS this morning and I plan to call rye hm with my friend when we are together. Thank you all for the help.
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I like what Ed posted - give PCGS a call. Other than that, the slab in question appears a bit milky compared to the one that appears on the PCGS cert check. Could be the difference in lighting.
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The lighting where I was wasn't the greatest. I just did my best to take clear, non blurry pictures. In person the coins look exactly same color wise. Thank you for the input :)
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