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http://www.ebay.com/sch/yulinglong8...047675.l2562

http://www.ebay.com/sch/liangliang5...047675.l2562

http://www.ebay.com/sch/5.10234/m.h...047675.l2562

http://www.ebay.com/sch/litengfei51...047675.l2562


Honestly everything on this page just needs to be removed.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...em488297d54a
Sad.

I know I'm looking for them, but when you stumble upon them the results are shocking on how many are being listed daily.
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08/25/2015 8:59 pm
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Absolutely innocent people paying 100's of dollars on counterfeits, just makes you want to just cry in a hole.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Chinese...047675.l2557


See a repetition? Similar listing titles, and they name the "US coin" something differently.


Thousands a year are sold. ebay sold listings are usually in 3 month intervals. I found over 5400 listings that have sold in that 3 months time from china that are counterfeits. Some sold as much as over $100, which is sometimes the price some of the authentic ones do/don't reach.

Do the math and that's over 21,000 sold a year alone.
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08/25/2015 9:04 pm
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 Posted 08/25/2015  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are over 125,000 listings in US Dollars right now. Over 140,000 in Small Cents. 110,000 Halves, and more Quarters than that. One percent of them is five thousand coins. Anyone think 1% is an overestimation of the counterfeit coin market share at ebay?
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 Posted 08/25/2015  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly I think it's an underestimation. At least 3% or more of coins on ebay are probably counterfeits. There's a lot that go unnoticed. This is not to mention not only US coins but world coins too.
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 Posted 08/25/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeodatusAlp2002 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too many counterfeits! That's why I usually don't buy coins on ebay unless slabbed!
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 Posted 08/25/2015  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollsearcher37 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, there is only so much you can do to get these type of listings removed. Counterfeit coins are like a virus to our hobby, and the only vaccine is knowledge. Although there is always much more to be learned about fakes, I would say nine times out of ten you won't get taken if you have a good understanding of all the information pertaining to your series of choice.

So I guess my point is, if people don't want to take the time to do the required research, maybe they shouldn't be buying coins at all. A fool and his money are soon parted, as the saying goes.
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 Posted 08/25/2015  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For whoever bought that fake Trade dollar for $100---I can see many s in your future.

Just to be on the safe side, I will never buy coins from sellers from the world's leading sponsor of counterfeits.
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I love how these Morgan dollars are named.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/chenhui5188..._ipg=&_from=

"Da Nv Wang"

"Shao Nv Peng Hua"

"Da Hu Die Jie" kind of sounds "The huge"

It's like "Nv" is some sort of counterfeiter language.
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Some of them are actual pinyin. "Nv" is in place when it should be "n#474;" (nü with a third tone, in case that previous character won't show up properly), which means female or woman.

These are some bizarre names. Wonder what were they (or were they not?) thinking.
"Liang Nan Ren" means "two men" (1883 Lugano Shooting Thaler)
"Mu Zi" means "mother and child" (1865 Schaffhausen Shooting Thaler)
"Ying She" means "eagle snake" (1891 Mexican Republic 8R)
"Shao Nv Peng Hua" means "young girl holding flowers" (1874Trade dollar)
"Yong Shi" means "warrior" (1874 St. Gallen Shooting Thaler)
"Zi You Nv Shen" means "freedom goddess" (1926 French Indochina 1 Piastre)
"Da Nv Wang" means "great lady emperor" (1885 Morgan dollar)
"Yi Yuan Nv Shen" means "one Yuan female god"
"Da Hu Die Jie" means "big bow-knot" (1869 Zug Shooting Thaler reverse muled with a Dominican Republic coat of arms)
"Da Hong Qi" means "big red flag" (Zug Shooting Thaler obverse muled with 1974 Dominican Republic 12th Central American & Caribbean Games commemorative)
"Si Ba Da" means "Sparta" (1885 Bern Shooting Thaler)
"Zi You Bo Ai" means "only universal love" (1875 French 5 Fr)

I love how one directly translates to "big red flag".
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I love how one directly translates to "big red flag".



That is sad and funny all at the same time!
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I would, very much, enjoy a discussion on ebay's ultimate liability in this. Class action lawsuits are an interest of mine, having made over $10,000 in claims in the last 20 years. I don't file a claim unless I am eligible, so don't start.

Remember, ebay's ultimate liability as determined by the judicial system.
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