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 Posted 08/27/2015  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the photo is of a high 9, it's certainly not a very high 9 because the tip of the tail is somewhat lower than the 2.

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 Posted 08/27/2015  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the photo, it looked high to me,maybe what some call a medium, but pretty sure it is not what Charelton calls a standard. Either way, was willing to take the gamble on the coin for $5, but to not receive the coin and get something that clearly a standard



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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That does not look like a High 9. The tip of a high 9 is basically in line with the base of the 2. The 9 on the coin in your pic has its tail considerable lower (relatively speaking).
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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:24 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All this over 3.99 . All I can say is wow. I have to add one thing , that I feel is really important. In 16 years all the bad experiences we have had on E Bay ( thankfully not many) with the exception of one all have been from Canadian Buyers . The lying of oh I did not get to other petty issues all Canadians. As I am Canadian I feel that is fair comment.
This issue is so petty it is beyond belief, we are talking $3.99 and free shipping. absolutely incredible.
We for one will NEVER list cheap Canadian coins untracked on ebay ever again. Just way better experience selling to our American cousins.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Pacific, I am not sure "petty" is the right word in this case, I wanted an opinion on what forum members would do? Which is why I did not include the auction id until you suggested it was needed.

For me a good seller, regardless of item value, would;
1. Acknowledge mistake
2. Try to resolve issue

The seller only tried to do #2 and did not see an issue with not disclosing the use of stock photos of circulated coins. Perhaps I am in the wrong for suggesting that this kind of behavior is not worthy of negative/neutral feedback.

For clarity, I did not ask for compensation or a return (not worth my time), I only suggested that in the future that the seller mention in his postings that these are not the coins a seller would be receiving, seller offered and sent extra coins which I did not want or need.

The seller currently has 2000+ Canadian coins listed and 13k feedback, which I think makes the issue relevant to buyers on ebay, as this person is a significant seller and this type of selling may be of interest to prospective buyers. For me, petty would be threatening to leave negative feedback unless I received a significant refund or something similar. At least one other forum member has had the same problem, which suggests it could be a pattern.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't matter that the coin pictured is not a high 9, or that the value of the transaction is less than 5 bucks is there a threshold value for dishonesty. The seller misrepresented the coins the buyer received.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 08/28/2015  02:47 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is your prerogative and no you are absolutely dead wrong . For the past forty years. Most of my real income has come from US coin shows and sales. The coin shop barely covered the expenses. Simply put this thread is yet another example of how petty Canadian ebay buyers can be and how vindictive they are. I will say it again all this over a $ 3.99 sale with free shipping and you are going to crucify a seller. Just amazing.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, I am not sure if the "crucified" comment is directed at me, if yes I would say very premature to say that, as I have not decided any course of action.

Pacific, to fully understand, are you suggesting that posting an image of a coin and shipping another without telling the buyer is an acceptable practice by a seller? Or is it ok only for low value items?
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 Posted 08/28/2015  03:40 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Purely no that crucify is a generality and certainly not directed toward you in any way.
As to your questions no it is not acceptable to post a picture and ship something else, certainly not from my point of view anyways. The value is irrelevant. That said it is certainly a fixable situation in this case and hardly worth a negative to the seller.. Personally I have only left one negative in sixteen years and it was an issue that bordered on fraud.
In the business mistakes do happen and things can go wrong wether it be bricks and mortar or ebay. Our policy has always been make it good and keep smiling.
Have a good night and don't let this bother you too much. There are always deals out there that will come your way. Remember good things as well as bad happen.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I marked "positive" as well. It's a $4 sale and many (or some) vendors charge that much for shipping. There are ways to give a positive and still mark 3 stars or less in each rating category. The vendor tried to make ammends, so you got xxteen coins for 2 toonies. There are crooks on ebay that are infintely worse than this. Just frying him on this site is enough to take business away from him, so he's paying. A negative would be petty.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Wow , Can't we just all get along ? however I'm still on
OP's side on this issue.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdcoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would give him the benefit of the doubt.100% feedback on that many transactions means something. If he was dishonnest, he certainly would not be there. I would ask him to revise his listing as he will probably relist the same.Give him a positive.With that many active listings,it is possible to overlook a few mistakes.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It concerns me greatly how sometimes it seems there is great joy among some members of the forum for an opportunity to pile on and lambaste an ebay seller. Many times, it seems, there is an assumption of malice, and there is a queue waiting to act as judge, jury and executioner.

Obviously, if the OP thinks a negative is warranted, that is their prerogative and their right to do so. I just don't think there should be a CCF lynch mob alongside.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jdmerm, I agree with you on that.

Purelywasted, lots if times I've also bought coins that I though had the potential of being a rarer variety based on a possibility of a photo that wasn't entirely clear but when it turned out they weren't, the furthest thing from my mind was to be upset at the seller for not giving me "something for nothing". While I never paid more than the regular type coin, to me it was simply a gamble with my risk being buying duplicates of something I already owned. Most times I lost the gamble but whatever. If I had won, admittedly I was hoping to take advantage of a mistaken or naive seller. (Something to think about - Would a buyer leave negative feedback when they got something for nothing, because the listed coin wasn't advertised as a variety? Certainly not!)

In this example, had the seller advertised a high 9 and sold you a standard 9 at a high 9 price, then you would have a valid concern. The photo certainly isn't of a clear high 9, the price wasn't in line with a high 9......I'm not really understanding why the animosity toward the seller who also tried to resolve the dissatisfaction. At $3.99 and free shipping (twice, sending you more coins?) the seller made absolutely NO money on the transaction. So the issue seems not that you were defrauded but that you didn't get "something for nothing".....you gambled and lost. In my opinion, in this example, leaving a negative rating for the seller seems unreasonable. I voted "no comment" because obviously for you it wasn't a positive experience.
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