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It looks like a small CC, but there are no chips inside the CC's which is not the norm for the small CC's. There is a die gouge beneath the bottom arrow feather that I don't see on any of the others. Also on the reverse by OF there is pitting that I haven't seen before either. There is a die gouge or die clash in front of the bottom lip. Can you tell which of these two it is? If this coin has been clashed and then polished out by the mint then they might have missed part of it. How about a close up of the lips, then above the headband between the wheat stalk and the bottom of the B and last on the reverse in the area above the d of GOD and the w of WE. Even if this coin isn't clashed you might want to send it to Leroy, could be a new VAM. I think PCGS only attributes TOP 100 and HOT 50 for now. |
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Jaobler,
I tend to agree with ocsjr2001. It doesn't match the diagnostics of established 80-cc VAMs. I narrowed it to the 3 or 10 (keys are slanted arrow feathers and dash under the second 8), but it's missing the die gouges inside the mintmark for a VAM-3 and I can't see a die gouge on the upper lip to be a VAM-10. The pitting isn't mentioned in any of the previous VAMs. Congrats ... you may have a first!
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01/10/2008 8:16 pm
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Thanks Ocsjr and SeatedNut, The mintmark is clear with no sign of chips or gouges. The mark visible at the bottom of the arrow feathers appears to be a bagmark under the microscope; it is not raised so I presume it is not a die gouge. Here are some more photos.  I don't see any pitting around "OF", just some haze that reduces the reflectivity in that area.   Under the microscope, I think I do see some small clash marks above "God We" and below the "B" in Pluribus. I really can't make them very visible in my photos.  There is a distinct raised curved line on Liberty's upper lip. Is this diagnostic of VAM 10, as SeatedNut suggests? I appreciate all your input! |
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Jaobler ... from VAM World for 80-CC VAM10 " Die marker- Short vertical die scratch on upper lip." Could be ... but what about the pitting. That's as significant as the pitting on the 1921's, yet there is no mention in current attributions. I'd have it checked out.  |
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Your mystery is solved, VAM-10 having the die scratch on the upper lip is the key identification marker as noted and pictured in Leroy's last supplement. It is the finger print for this VAM, and the pitting probably shows up more on a DMPL. Good job on the close up photo's so we could solve this, since the full obverse shot didn't reveal it. Sometimes you just have to have those close ups! |
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Thank you Dave and Ocsjr, it sounds like I have VAM 10. Since it's not a Top 50 or Hot 100 (or is that the other way around), I presume it has no extra value. However, I'm pleased to know exactly what I have. Thanks again for the expert attribution help!  |
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That's probably one of the nicest VAM 10s around, the new owners of ANACS aren't currently letting us into the Pop. Report to check on it tho. It is listed as an R-4 and is the only 1880CC with the III(2)7 obverse(that's a high 2). Don't know how many there are around, but myself, I've only seen one other. Congrats! |
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Got into ANACS Pop. Report today and in VAM-10 they have 12 coins in MS64, 2 in MSPL64 and 0 in MSDM64 or higher. There goes the no extra value theory!!
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