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1893-S Morgan Silver Dollar Is This The Real Deal

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I bought this 1893 I suspect and s Morgan silver dollar off of ebay for $95 and would like to know if it is the real deal I have looked it over and over and to me it seems to be the real thing but I would like my friends here to look it over and tell me what they think if I got the real deal or did I get duped.



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 Posted 08/30/2015  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why do you think it's an S mintmark? There is no way to know.
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A good shot of the date straight on and a close up of the letters RT in LIBERTY will tell us. There is only one obverse die used for 1893-S Morgans.
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it is my understanding that they used one die stamp for the 1893-S & two for the back, that by looking at the real ones for the rabbit ears On the R & T of Liberty & the date position and location all these things appear to show it to be the real deal and the only ones to have this was the S mint
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 Posted 08/30/2015  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinstruckfiind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the guy that listed it on ebay listed it as a bolo tie under jewelry instead of placing it as a 1893 Morgan silver dollar under US coins I was able to buy this for $95 and was the only bidder.
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If you have the rabbit ears you won big time.
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If the coin isn't fake then you most definitely made a good purchase. Nice job!
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it looks like a P to me because of the position of the date but the pics are really hard to see if u hade better I pics I can tell you for sure the mint mark and if its 100% authentic
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looks fake to me.
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It does appear to be a genuine 1893 Morgan. The auction ended 10 days ago, do you have any in-hand images to share? Also, not sure how you could have been duped when it was not being sold as anything other than a 1893 Morgan?

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IMHO, it's not a '93-S and likely not a genuine coin. To be a 93-S, there must be a dentil positioned squarely below the "1" in the date. That's not the case here.

There's one that looks identical on a website that's not allowed as a link. It has a BIN of $22,000 .... By Googling "1893, dollar, bolo" (without quotation marks), one can see a few identical pieces, including one that's in a Goodwill store. Also, ebay listings contain a number of bolo ties with admittedly "reproduction" Morgan dollars.

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I know nothing about coin jewelry , why can't you take it to a reputable jeweler and have them remove the Morgan. then there will be no question.
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It's not an 1893-S. The date position is wrong.(assuming the auction link posted is the same Bolo)
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Here's a clear pic of the obverse:

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All 1893-S coins are Far Date. The left serif of the 1 is more than three full denticles from the point of the neck. This coin has what's considered a Normal Date, with the serif of the 1 2-1/2 denticles from the neck. Not sure what it is, but I'm absolutely positive it isn't an 1893-S Morgan.
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The date looks too thick honestly.
Why not take it out of there?

I am HOPING you scored but I am highly skeptical in all honesty.
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Not a 93s. That's for sure. And the date looking thick is probably from the minor polishing it received by the person / company who made the bolo to have it sparkle when it was set in the bezel.
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