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As the title suggests, I realize this post is a bit off-topic. However, I felt the overall theme of the item pictured linked it to classic coins, and also that at the very least, it would make for an interesting discussion! Anyway, I picked up this plate at a church yard sale in New England. The eagle on it is remarkably similar to the one that variously appeared on all of our silver coinage denominations during different points in the 1800s. The interesting thing is that the eagle is not an exact replica/ copy of that design--it is definitely stylized--and it is also an effective mirror image of the one we are familiar with. Does anyone happen to know something about this plate (such as a possible time frame with regard to its age)? I was personally unsure if it could be dated by the eagle alone, although I can't imagine why someone working in comparatively recent times would use an obsolete coin design as a model. Here are pictures of the front and back of the plate:   Edited by Earendil
09/01/2015 09:28 am
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You might go on ebay and see it you can find one like it to compare. How much did you pay for it? It looks old but it may have been made in China to look old. |
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Neat. How big is it? My first thought was "ashtray". Also like the stylized pineapples around the rim....
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Quote:You might go on ebay and see it you can find one like it to compare. How much did you pay for it? It looks old but it may have been made in China to look old. Thanks for the suggestion. I guess it's not as "special" as I thought it was... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ame...047675.l2557. Oh well; at least it still has an interesting design. It was just a dollar. So, even if it's Chinese, it certainly won't break the bank! Quote:
Neat. How big is it? My first thought was "ashtray". Also like the stylized pineapples around the rim.... Thanks. I don't have a ruler nearby at the moment, but it looks to be around 8 inches across. So, it might be more of a serving dish than an ashtray! Ha ha, somehow I never noticed that! I was more focused on the eagle than on the border. This is why I posted this topic: so I could receive some further insights about it.  Edited by Earendil
09/01/2015 09:24 am
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Appears to be a carnival glass candy dish with a federal eagle design. Carnival glass pieces were the prizes given out for winning carnival and fair games in the late 19th & early 20th centuries before the advent of teddy bears and the like when a childs doll for instance cost a weeks salary. I would start my research by googling "carnival glass dish eagle stars" or "carnival glass federal eagle" things like that. Now back to my migraine  |
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Interesting and really nice looking. If it were mine, I'd keep it on a table for people see.
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Appears to be a carnival glass candy dish with a federal eagle design. Carnival glass pieces were the prizes given out for winning carnival and fair games in the late 19th & early 20th centuries before the advent of teddy bears and the like when a childs doll for instance cost a weeks salary. I would start my research by googling "carnival glass dish eagle stars" or "carnival glass federal eagle" things like that.
Now back to my migraine. That's certainly something that would never have occurred to me! Thank you very much for the insights. I'll be sure to try that. Quote:
Interesting and really nice looking. If it were mine, I'd keep it on a table for people see. Thanks! I thought so too. Don't worry- it's not something I've ever had locked away or otherwise out of sight! Edited by Earendil
09/02/2015 4:45 pm
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My immediate thought was Fostoria's earlier coin glass, as they have several other examples with heraldic eagles and stars on blue carnival-type glass. But the design didn't match any Fostoria I've seen, so I poked the antique memory a bit more and came up with Indiana Glass (inventor of the famous A&W root beer mug) who were a mass producer of carnival and Depression-style pressed glass. The eagle motif was very popular around the Bicentennial (mid 70s) and lots of commemorative carnival glass plates were issued with patriotic themes.
I'm going to say yours is Indiana Glass, probably mid 70s, and there are examples known to exist in amber, gold, green, and even amberina-style, among others.
Value between $10 to $25 depending on crazing/wear/abrasions and how much iridesence and luster remain. It's a nice piece and eminently usable in your day to day life.
If you are interested, I would highly recommend searching for "coin glass" and you can see glassware from the 1800s to the 1970s made with designs either directly imitating or looking similar to classic American coinage. The examples that look like real coin designs are quite valuable and very collectible; the newer ones that just have more generic "coins" are mass produced and collectible but not nearly as valuable unless the color is rare or highly collected (amberina-style, opalescent, milk, cobalt.)
Hope this helps. (I don't just collect coins; I also collect glassware, bottles, sports memorabilia, and records!)
Bonus points for the name. Aiya Eärendil, elenion ancalima! Welcome to CCF!
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Ha, lord of the rings. How did I miss that. Anyway, I agree with paralyzes logic about being a bicentennial era 70s repop. Don't know why I didn't put 2 and 2 together on that. Must have been the migraine
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My immediate thought was Fostoria's earlier coin glass, as they have several other examples with heraldic eagles and stars on blue carnival-type glass. But the design didn't match any Fostoria I've seen, so I poked the antique memory a bit more and came up with Indiana Glass (inventor of the famous A&W root beer mug) who were a mass producer of carnival and Depression-style pressed glass. The eagle motif was very popular around the Bicentennial (mid 70s) and lots of commemorative carnival glass plates were issued with patriotic themes.
I'm going to say yours is Indiana Glass, probably mid 70s, and there are examples known to exist in amber, gold, green, and even amberina-style, among others.
Value between $10 to $25 depending on crazing/wear/abrasions and how much iridesence and luster remain. It's a nice piece and eminently usable in your day to day life.
If you are interested, I would highly recommend searching for "coin glass" and you can see glassware from the 1800s to the 1970s made with designs either directly imitating or looking similar to classic American coinage. The examples that look like real coin designs are quite valuable and very collectible; the newer ones that just have more generic "coins" are mass produced and collectible but not nearly as valuable unless the color is rare or highly collected (amberina-style, opalescent, milk, cobalt.)
Hope this helps. (I don't just collect coins; I also collect glassware, bottles, sports memorabilia, and records!)
Bonus points for the name. Aiya Eärendil, elenion ancalima! Welcome to CCF! Thank you very much for the breakdown; you were certainly able to deduce more about this plate than I was! It's actually in almost perfect condition, which is part of the reason I picked it up. At the very least, I figured it would make an interesting collectible. The recommendations are much appreciated; thank you for getting me started! That it does! Thanks! I'm quite fond of both the books and the movie series (The Hobbit movies a bit less so, though...). Quote:
Ha, lord of the rings. How did I miss that. Anyway, I agree with paralyzes logic about being a bicentennial era 70s repop. Don't know why I didn't put 2 and 2 together on that. Must have been the migraine No worries. Thank you for your help as well! |
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