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1922 Weak D Cent?

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I posted under modern varieties ans errors but never get many opinions there this coin that I believe is a weak d is very hard to grade. I'm posting a slabbed one in the second box. paid $65.00 so if I'm wrong ill lose a $20.00 bill what do you think grade and is it a weak d. Thanks everyone

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Top one is a beautiful weak d woody imo

Second one I would pass by faster than a vegan at a BBQ joint
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Vf30ish range for me. I'd much rather have the first one you posted then the slabbed one. That is for sure.
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First one EF-45, second is a details coin that I would pass on.
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sorry heres the slab for second coin

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Whaaaat.... No way thats UNC?
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AU-53, not hard to grade, you just have to know how. Most of the grade must come from the obverse on 22D's since the reverse dies tended to be massively over-used, much more so than the obverse dies. Your coin shows just a trace of rub on the high points (cheek, jaw, lapel & above the ear). You can also see it has a strong reverse (somewhat rare for the issue), it has just a trace of wear too but you have to be careful judging wear using the reverse of 22D's since Denver tended to over-use their reverse dies due to a short supply from Philly. And, $60 is a fair price for an AU 22D, regardless of the weak D designation.

I'm not a big fan of how the TPG's determine a weak D. I disagree with the PCGS example you posted, that is a pretty prominent D for the classification compared to others I've seen. Technically, according to the Lincoln Cent Resource page, all "weak D's" also exhibit a weak reverse:

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.html

Obviously, your coin has a strong reverse. However, logically, a weak D MUST exist for the strong reverse as it was gradually buffed off the working die. Personally, I wouldn't call a 22D a weak D unless you can BARELY make it out. I can clearly see the D on your coin. I've seen examples where you had to really strain and rotate the coin to see the D. Those I classify as a weak D.
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Yes it is. Most 22D's were struck on very worn dies, you have to understand the die states they used to accurately determine wear. I don't see any wear on that coin but it's been harshly cleaned.
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I'll go with 45, weak D on the first one.
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Was it really necessary to post this in two sub-forums?

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