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1793. - An Early Notgeld?

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Any idea what this could be?


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It is a receipt of the purchase of 6 lbs. oats and 10 lbs. hay by the Duchy of Jülich and their payment in return. Not currency, in my opinion, more like an Abrechtung or bill.

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Ticket (Receipt) for 6 pounds of oats, and 10 pounds of hay, for which the Duchy of Jülich pays 10 "something" Edictmäßig ("measured per decree", i.e. of a weight set by decree or standard)

The last bit is confusing; the Fraktur apparently reads "hbr" but with a minuscule h that is orthographically non-standard. Not sure what that stands for, perhaps Hamburg or Halber? Usually Edictmäßig is associated with the various Thalers, such as Conventionsthaler or Prussian Thaler. I did note that they spelled "Hafer" (oats) as "Haber" so perhaps they are here abbreviating it "hbr." but that does not make sense in the context.

This is a "free" translation (i.e. not literal), the spelling is obsolete; old Herzogthum -> new Herzogtum, old Edictmäszig -> new Ediktmäßig, etc.

The bottom stamp is "Schotz." The red stamp to the left is the stamp of the Duchy (JÜLICH) with a very stylized coat of arms.

Someone who is more familiar with the Early States (pre-Napoleonic to 1820s) era in German numismatics would likely be able to provide more information. The various kingdoms, duchies and states had their own Thalers and their own weird subdivisions (Deut, Stuber, etc.) whose value was fixed by decree, or pegged to another currency such as the gold Ducat, creating weird situations where your money would literally be worth more if you moved down the road a few miles, or worthless if you went the other direction.

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A currency unit of the Duchy of Julich & Berg at the time was the stuber (the local variant of the Dutch stuiver), abbreviated "Stbr" here.
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Ah, good catch, Sap. That explains the weird letter; it's a ligature of s-t.
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Thank you so much for this wonderful expertize, Paralyse. You realy have a great knowledge about this stuff.

All the best of luck to you!
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