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 Posted 09/11/2015  9:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add One50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is another nice one for my WWII collection.
I picked it up a few weeks ago for $6.00.
I didn't spend much time looking at it, I simply liked it and it filled a hole in my short set.

I'm looking for a grade so I can mark it on my flip.
I'm thinking low MS, hopefully not an AU. These photos really bring out the ugly of the coin, but in hand, it's not that bad.

1943-P-Washington-Quarter

1943-P-Washington-Quarter

BUT WAIT, there's more.
Last night I go to put it away for storage and take a much closer look.
I think I found an error coin?
What do you think?
FS-102?

1943-P-Washington-Quarter

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 Posted 09/11/2015  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice AU55-ish example of a 1943 DDO. For $6, that's grand larceny.

(To give you an example, I paid 4 times that much for mine in an ANACS old holder graded F15.)

Coin may have been cleaned, based on those hairline scratches, or it could be due to light circulation. Definitely not a MS coin - slight wear on neck, check, hair, eagle's wing tips, etc.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rayof315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice looking AU coin. I can see why it struck your eye. And nice pickup with the DDO.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OspreyCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pickup, I agree that it is AU, but for 6 bucks that was a great deal! Especially because of the DDO.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OspreyCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would give it AU-55
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 Posted 09/12/2015  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at low AU, nice DDO.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this worth sending in to slab?
I might consider slabbing it if it's $100 + coin.

If slabbing is $40 and I got $6 in it, can I double my money if I sell it?
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No way.

In a non-details-graded mid AU it's a $60 to $70 coin at best.

Yours would get an AU details. You'd make more money listing the coin as a raw attributed FS-101 DDO than you would paying someone to slab it.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would this coin get details?
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AU-55
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It has been cleaned. Hairlines, larger scratches, complete absence of toning on an AU coin, luster inconsistent with wear.

Hence, a details grade
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 Posted 09/13/2015  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean by "Hairlines" in this case?
The glossary section on this website lends it to a proof coin.

Whats the definition of "Hairlines" as your using it on this coin.
Just trying to learn and understand.
Thanks
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 Posted 09/13/2015  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hairline scratches are very fine scratches caused by lightly brushing a coin with something that is not 100% lint free. The tiny dust particles and bits of dirt leave tiny, thin scratches.

On a mint-struck coin, these lines are not usually present; they occur once the coin has been handled. They are often caused by someone "wiping" the surface of the coin with something such as a towel or cloth. On a non-mint-state coin, the lines are part of ordinary circulation.

Lines which are part of the coin as struck such as die polishing lines will always either be radial (from the center out to the rim) or parallel (running together in the same direction.) Scratches that are not parallel or radial in nature (i.e. they go off in different directions) are commonly caused by improper handling such as using a cloth or towel to wipe the coin's surfaces.

Note that having these scratches does not automatically mean the coin will get a "details" grade from a TPG -- some amount of scratches are bound to happen to any circulated coin.

In the case of your coin, it's worth submitting it to ANACS (not that expensive) and seeing if it comes back "full grade" (no negative remarks) or "details" (cleaned, whatever.) Pictures on the internet often make great coins look worse than they really are, especially when it comes to scratches. If this coin looks good in hand, it's worth a submission, since the value if it comes back in a full grade AU will easily exceed the cost of submission.

Upon a bit of study, I think your coin has a shot at a "full grade" -- a 1936-D that I own (a very tough date and MM) made a full grade PCGS AU53 holder: (Compare the scratches, from circulation.)

1943-P-Washington-Quarter

This 1949 from my Registry Set is an example of what a coin in true Mint State (i.e. no scratches) Washington quarter can look like: (MS66+)

1943-P-Washington-Quarter

This 1951-D DDO (Doubled Motto/LIBERTY) is also Mint State, but with some toning: (MS65)

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Hope this helps you out in your pursuit of the most awesome Quarters ever :)
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 Posted 09/14/2015  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Helps very much.
Thanks
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 Posted 09/17/2015  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete41 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice DDO. Will need to look closer at mine.
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