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12s Lincoln Reveals Unpleasant Surprise; Your Thoughts?

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 Posted 09/16/2015  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Edit: I love the term "sacrificial cent." Would I be correct in assuming that that should be a pre-59, or at least a pre-83 alloy coin?


I like to use a copper cent very harshly cleaned to bright copper with an SOS pad (or steel wool).
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 Posted 09/16/2015  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is very nice.

Take BadThad's advice and do not worry about it.
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Not all that is green is verdigris.
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Not all that is green is verdigris.


Yea, it could've been in Kermit's pocket.

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 Posted 09/16/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again to everybody for even more great information. While everyone is being so helpful, how about we just do a complete primer on how to bag up your copper coins that are in holders? GSDykes suggest Hefty bags, which I assume means they are free of PVC and other toxins. BadThad adds to use a scrubbed copper for the sacrificial cent. (I'm digging through a bucket for pre-83's.) That leaves only the desiccant (which I just realized I have been spelling wrong). As with everything else numismatic, the obvious question: are some more appropriate than others in terms of purity? Finally, if I want to do one bag per slab, I assume someone makes such a thing without impurities? Thanks again for the warm welcome and good ideas. There's so much to learn.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelfinder311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!
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Use pure silica gel beads in a Tyvek pack. Do not use moisture color-changing silica desiccants, as the gases they emit can be harmful. (i.e. no blue silica). I use 56 gram packs for a 2 1/2 gallon Hefty bag. [a bit over-kill, but thats the way I am]. Hefty bags are made of polyethylene, which is perfect for coins--I checked with the manufacturer. With Tyvek as the packaging, you can oven-dry the packs for re-use!! Which saves money. Tyvek melts at 200 degrees [F.] (actually about 230 degrees) so keep the oven set at no more than 200 degrees, and dry for several hours. Weigh the packs before drying, and compare after drying. I dry the packs about once per year. Tyvek packs of silica gel beads are tough, they can handle some wear and tear. If you have special coins (such as tin) do not allow to freeze, keep at room temperatures. Keep sulphides, salts, chlorides and certain oxides away from the coin environments. Also, most Coin supply stores supply small plastic "safe" baggies for slabs et al. [of course no PVC or bad stuff!].

All of this is cheap and easy to do, really. I buy the Tyvek packs in bulk (each packet weighs 56 gram packs, 20 packets at a time) off ebay. Hope this helps. There are also other gas absorbing items other than the sacrificial cent, but they cost a lot more! (i.e. "Corrosion Protection Kits", available from most larger coin dealers/shops).
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Fantastic information, GS, I can't thank you enough. If I may impose on you for one more detail. If you are using a 2 1/2 gallon bag, I assume you are putting multiple slabs in it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, but how do you keep the holders from banging into each other? One of my "things" is that I hate scratched holders (and I'm amazed at how prevalent they are), so once they get into my custody, I'm pretty much committed to being sure they don't suffer any more scratches or abrasions. Thanks.

That's a rant for later, by the way. I don't see how a person can care enough about coins to be a collector and/or dealer, and even to care enough to have a coin certified, or buy one that has been certified, and then allow the holder to be horribly scratched and abraded to the point that your view of the coin is significantly impaired. That just doesn't make sense.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, by the way, you used the phrase "old copper," upthread, which I like. Just for fun, here's a photo of my latest arrival, combining the topics of old copper, keeping spots from growing, and unfortunately scratched holders, with a bit of wood thrown in for a bonus. I paid too much for this but I couldn't resist the stripes.



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That 1911 D is a nice "Woody", I am envious!

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If you are using a 2 1/2 gallon bag, I assume you are putting multiple slabs in it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, but how do you keep the holders from banging into each other?


I keep large 3 ring binders in these large bags, the binders hold many coins, albums!. For slabs they sell albums (like a medium or large size 3 ring binder) and pages which hold the slabs. Use them, and then put the entire album into an appropriate sized Hefty bag! Add desiccant and the cent, and you are good to go. I recommend Wizard Coin Supply, or The Brooklyn Gallery (www.brooklyngallery.com), their slab albums ("Lighthouse Grande Certified Slab Coin Albums") sell for about 62 dollars for a large 6 page album (with slipcases). Each page holds 9 slabs. A 4 page album is about 46 dollars. Or you can just buy individual pages for about $2.65 each. The Brooklyn Gallery folks sell most all of the supplies you will ever need, including silica packets, and many many books! Check them out!
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here's a photo of my latest arrival,


Beautiful 11D!

Where's the reverse pic?
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Thanks, GS, that's a great summary of both practices and resources. I'm on it.

BT, thanks for the comment, and here it is. Sorry for the delay; I was out of town.

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Quick edit: As you might imagine, I've been searching and reading threads on "how to remove scratches from holders." Some people should receive a good talking-to about what they do to those things.
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Nice
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Thanks. You people got me hooked on the woodies! I have a feeling this is going to be a very seductive quest.
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That 11D rocks!
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