Gallienus? Or Someone Else ? Help Please?

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Topcat7 Pillar of the Community 1121 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 4:18 pm I bought this coin as a Gallienus but I have been unable to attribute it as such. The bust looks Gallienus but I am unable to find the reverse type under Gallienus. Is it Gallienus or is it someone else? AE17 mm., 3.1 gm., Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 4:26 pm The bust is clearly Gallienus IMO. Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3444 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 4:29 pm Gallienus has around 1,000 reverse types on the antoninianus. That combined with the fact that the imperial mints were operating at a hitherto historic low as far as quality control went means it is in that long list of Gallienus somewhere ! Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS 09/20/2015 4:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Topcat7 Pillar of the Community 1121 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 4:44 pm Thanks, Ron, F.R. That being the case, can anyone suggest some search 'parameters' that I might try? I have already tried 'Child', 'Captive', 'Soldier', and a few others. Report this Post to the Staff
dohcollector Valued Member Belgium 464 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 5:06 pm good site to try and recognise ancient coins http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/...ienus/t.html Report this Post to the Staff
Topcat7 Pillar of the Community 1121 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 5:51 pm Thanks for that, D.C. I've already been there and tried that without any luck. I have also tried Acsearch using a variety of search 'parameters'. Report this Post to the Staff
pishpash Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 3626 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 6:12 pm Try "Gallienus kneeling" http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...r=0&company= Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3444 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 6:17 pm Well let us see what we have to work with Someone standing front facing left. Subject appears to have feminine attributes (ie breasts !). Holding orb (globe) in right hand and transverse scepter in left hand. Also what might be a peculiar 'hat' on head ? Did Gallienus mint any Provincial types ? Like for Dacia or some other northern frontier area ? I have never been particularly big on Gallienus. He was probably a very capable emperor and given the non stop series of crisis he faced and the unusually long reign (for that era) a man with capacity to multi task too ! Good luck with the search I have too much on my plate right now to join Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3444 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 6:19 pm You may right pish What I thought to be a globe may be the head of someone being "raised" by a god Report this Post to the Staff
pishpash Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 3626 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 6:23 pm There is no match in the search results I posted. The reverse of TC's coin shows a transverse spear, none of the results have this. I tried a search on acsearch for "gallienus transverse spear" and came up with nothing. Report this Post to the Staff
lrbguy Pillar of the Community United States 949 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 6:40 pm Seaby Roman Silver Coins, vol 5, p.92 illustrates a reverse type that has some critical similarities to your coin. It features Providentia standing left, holding globe and transverse spear, with the inscription "PROVID AVG". The emblems are in the same positions as on your coin, and the V of PROVID seems to appear about where there is a V on your coin's reverse. However, on your coin the headgear on the figure appears different, resembling a helmet, and the transverse spear stops at the legs. A definite "maybe." but I would not stop looking. Report this Post to the Staff
Topcat7 Pillar of the Community 1121 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 7:30 pm Thanks for the support, everyone. Irbguy, I believe that you are absolutely right. I think that the reverse IS Providentia holding globe and spear and it is RIC.V.508a Report this Post to the Staff
Paul Bulgerin Pillar of the Community United States 3098 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 7:48 pm I was going to suggest Pax standing, but the PROVID AVG looks like a good solution to the question. Here is a PAX AVG with a bust type that fits your coin. http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/rom...Default.aspx Paul Bulgerin Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 8:05 pm But doesn't that attribution completely discount what's happening at the feet our reverse figure? Is SALVS a possibility? IMO, the only other option given the clarity of the "V" in the reverse legend with obviously not many overall digits. Maybe some type of variation of this type: http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=15295 Report this Post to the Staff
Topcat7 Pillar of the Community 1121 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 8:13 pm Great minds, P.P. I DID try Gallienus kneeling, and Jupiter, and a few others, too. Thanks, Paul. Without Providentia, I would have been happy to look at Pax, but Providentia fits better in so many ways, (no olive branch, legend, headwear etc.). F.R. - I DID go down that road and that is how I came to Providentia, at about the same time as Irbguy. When I got back to the thread, he had beaten me to it. He is quicker than me. Well, that was a good one to start the week. Thanks everyone. Edited by Topcat7 09/20/2015 8:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tenbobbit Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 701 Posts	Posted 09/20/2015 8:17 pm I would go with LRBguy as the one TC has selected is supposed to have MP in exergue. That was the one I thought until LRBguy posted his Report this Post to the Staff
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