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A 'Bu' 1911 Penny

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 Posted 09/24/2015  11:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wandering to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Recently I bought a 1911 penny from asynpm. It was stated as 'BU Luster', and it looks like BU luster:

A-'Bu'-1911-Penny

However when I tile the coin under the light, in one angle I can see something:

A-'Bu'-1911-Penny

It looks like polished in one direction, but I'm just wondering how a polished coin can still have luster. So my question is, is it really caused by polishing or it is original, and the traces come from before mint?


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 Posted 09/24/2015  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You take your chances buying from asypm, sure looks a cleaned coin.
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 Posted 09/24/2015  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure looks cleaned to me but asynpm does state very generous grades to most all his coins so you have to grade them on your own often from poor quality pictures. Interested in hearing what others have to say.

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 Posted 09/24/2015  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a problem coin to me.


Quote:
You take your chances buying from asypm


This says it all (with the correct spelling).
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 Posted 10/05/2015  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, you are rolling the dice with asyn, learned that lesson the hard way when I first started collecting. I thought the MS-67's were such a great deal at 2-4x FV, amazingly the prices (incl shipping) are higher than they were before, even with more conservative grade identification. I think one day a lot of people will be sad to learn their ASYN MS-67 is actually an AU50 worth FV.

To be fair, I am happy with some of the specimen sets at 1.25x FV and silver coins I got from the various auctions. Though, I know stay away and no longer search.

Sorry about your coin, if you paid a decent amount, it might be worth returning or opening a "not as described case". Otherwise chalk this one up to experience.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the first photo, it looks like some minor wear on the vertical jewels up the crown .. the highest part of the Obverse.
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 Posted 10/06/2015  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a quick reply,...That is NOT die polishing showing in the bottom pic...
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 Posted 10/06/2015  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never bought from him and probably never will. The coin does look cleaned for sure.
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 Posted 10/06/2015  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes .. the lines showing are NOT die polishing. It's harsh cleaning
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 Posted 10/06/2015  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wandering to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. It's some loss but not very serious. I already took it out from the asyn holder so probably it's not very good to return it.
Another thing I noticed is the the rim on this side is actually worn out badly. The reverse side is much better.
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 Posted 10/22/2015  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a shame. Your coin definitely shows signs of cleaning and the 'wear' on the vertical jewels in the crown are a sure sign of some type of circulation. It is too bad you removed it from the original holder as the seller would no doubt refuse a refund due to the removal.

Edited to add: a friendly and trustworthy coin dealer once advised me to be very careful of "BU" coins as the BU might mean "Been Used". I've never forgotten that advice.
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 Posted 10/22/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
lol I love that... BU = Been Used :)
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 Posted 10/22/2015  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jello_g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd return it for a complete refund. Any problem with that, then negative feedback is warranted.
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 Posted 10/23/2015  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would still contact seller, let them know the issue, if the response is "too bad, so sad", open a not as described case, you will get your money back, open package or not.
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 Posted 10/23/2015  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would try soaking the coin in acetone & see if anything comes off. Some older coins were lacquered by collectors a long time ago. Brush marks in lacquer can mimic the effect of a coin being harshly cleaned.
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