Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsJoin Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1818 Half Crown - Authentic Or Not?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 9 / Views: 6,097Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Paul Bulgerin's Avatar
United States
3098 Posts
 Posted 09/25/2015  6:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I came across this George III 1818 Half Crown on ebay. It looks good to me, but the seller's other coins all looked the same dull silver color, so I suspected he was selling fakes.

The opening bid was only $15.00, but no on bid on it which only added to my suspicions about its authenticity.

What do people think? Real or not.

If it's not real, what are the signs that it is not?

Your thoughts and opinions are most welcome.


1818-Half-Crown---Authentic-Or-Not?
Paul Bulgerin
Pillar of the Community
DavidUK's Avatar
United Kingdom
2624 Posts
 Posted 09/25/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What alignment has this coin got (There are Chinese fakes around with the reverse turned 180 degree's) Other signs to look for are apparently on the reverse the lions tail being cut off (not sure which but you see the bottom lion in the upper right quadrant's tail is interrupted on yours) Also on obverse: an extra bead over E in DEI (don't think so)
on Reverse: dot in cross of crown + two notches over PE of PENSE (not sure but your P and E look a bit messed up) and someone else mentioned "The bottom serif of the I in DEI looks buggered to, far to fat. In fact, the only I that looks right is the I in GRATIA"

This information is stuff I uncovered in a google search, I wouldn't have known these things myself... the coin doesn't look too bad to me, but it should be way more money which would make me suspicious (Mind you I missed out on a £100 banknote I was watching today, it went for £12! So bargains can be had sometimes even if it is the real McCoy)

Hope someone else comments, I am suspicious but not convinced either way on this coin.

PS it should weigh 14.1g so check that out too.
Edited by DavidUK
09/25/2015 6:59 pm
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Paul Bulgerin's Avatar
United States
3098 Posts
 Posted 09/25/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply. I didn't bid on the coin so I don't know the alignment or weight.
Paul Bulgerin
Valued Member
United Kingdom
109 Posts
 Posted 10/02/2015  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beeston1990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First thing I noticed was the colour.. looked fake to me
Pillar of the Community
Tom Goodheart's Avatar
United Kingdom
856 Posts
 Posted 10/02/2015  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not authentic in my view.

1818-Half-Crown---Authentic-Or-Not?

Fake at the top (Chinese copy) genuine article below, from another forum.

You'll see the bust on the one you posted is closer to the 'bull headed' copy than the real deal.

Or, if you like it, get one here for $1.61: https://aliexpress.com/store/produc...9412762.html

Oops .. I don't think Bobby allows links to that site! But it was a well known Chinese sale site for a 'copy 1818 halfcrown'.

.
Edited by Tom Goodheart
10/02/2015 11:01 am
Valued Member
Canada
206 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2016  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OttawaVoyageur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about the 1817 and 1819 from this seller?
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/mxh1morty/m....trksid=p3692

Lots of George III and George IV in excellent grades. Would you say the listings are suspicious?
Valued Member
Germany
55 Posts
 Posted 10/05/2016  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wiamcim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This website is a work in progress on George III counterfeit coin, not sure if he takes into account fakes from elsewhere but it might be useful checking through

www.steppeulvene.com/index.halfcrown.html
Valued Member
Canada
206 Posts
 Posted 10/09/2016  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OttawaVoyageur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link wiamcim.
I hope the author will pursue his project and eventually add some explanations regarding visual makers.

The shilling page is particularly interesting.

Pillar of the Community
Canada
1463 Posts
 Posted 10/10/2016  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to say counterfeit. So many out there
New Member
seuk's Avatar
Denmark
40 Posts
 Posted 10/12/2016  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forgery.
This type of forgery exists for all years 1817-1820 but I've seen only low grade examples modeled on the same 1818 coin. The 1818 exist as a high grade silver forgery however these carries the same marks as the low grade ones including the wrong alignment.

1818-Half-Crown---Authentic-Or-Not?
Edited by seuk
10/12/2016 6:26 pm
  Previous TopicReplies: 9 / Views: 6,097Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.28 seconds to rattle this change. Forums