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1983-P Jefferson Nickel Error? Need Some Help Please

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 Posted 09/29/2015  07:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dhurley to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I came across this nickel and just don't know what to make of it. I have found a lot of information on nickels from the same mint and year, but nothing even close to what I have. I read about over filled die casts and old casts for the new coin causing a "mush" effect, but the pictures don't look anything like this. Any help with what I have and if it has any value (whether it be true or collectors) would be extremely grateful. I do not plan to get rid of it, I like quirky looking coins like this even if it is only FV. There are some spots on the pictures that you might say look blurry, but that is how the coin really looks. It is not a picture malfunction. Thank you very much, in advance, for the help.

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 Posted 09/29/2015  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A beautiful example of a coin stuck from SEVERELY worn dies. This would be a great piece to keep as an educational piece.
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 Posted 09/29/2015  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. VLDS=Very Late Die state.
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There is no casting involved in the minting process, the blanks are punched from coiled rolls of metal stock sheet. Every time a coin is struck, the radial flow of the planchet metal microscopically erodes the dies. Given enough strikes, the dies will sustain so much erosion that the resultant coins will begin to look like your example. Dies are usually replaced before they are that worn but some years are known to be worse than others, 1982 and 1983 VLDS coins are quite common. The die pair for that nickel most likely struck in excess of 500,000 coins before your coin was struck making it an extreme example of die wear. Unfortunately, none of that really adds any value other than education but someone might pay a few dollars for a coin displaying that much die wear.
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That is vvvvlds wow its still a neat coin I have never seen a die that gone
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 Posted 09/29/2015  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is actually in nice shape, because that's the way it was minted and it hasn't had all that much wear since.
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I also like adding coins like that to collection.

I can see/agree that it might be a late die strike.

But have you weighed the coin to see if it might
be a light planchet. If it is light enough you
might see the flow lines, like this coin show,
but maybe not enough coin to fill the die.

Lastly I have heard of set up coins, when the mint
is setting up the dies the first coins out may not
get a good strike.

When I was collecting a lot of nickels, I think I read for
nickels there is a bigger tolerance for coin weight. Something like + or - .2 grams.

The dies are set more for the slightly heavier planchets.
The heavier planchets would get the full strike and the
lighter coins would be mushy. The correct weight coins
look ok ... but not full strike.

Of course this is just my opinion, based on what I have read.

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 Posted 09/30/2015  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one is a good example of a VLDS die state coin that I added the reverse to my educational files.
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