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A Tertrarchy Of Post-Reform Follis

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These were types I didn't expect to add so soon after my last posting here in the forum. All are larger, post-reform Follis. All are linked to the London mint by style.

Constantius
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Diocletian
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Galerius
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Maximianus
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All are super coins and an excellent addition to your collection. Wish I could find examples as nice as these.
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Please forgive my curiosity, but why do you refer to these as "pre-reform" folles? The earliest of them Sutherland dates to 297, which is three years after the coinage reform.

Nor are they the first of the post reform issues, having been preceded by issues from both Trier (Treveri) and Lyon (Lugdunum).

Have you found some information which overturns Sutherland's chronology in RIC VI? That is not a rhetorical question. I have been out of the loop for a while and probably don't know the latest research on this. I do seem to recall that there was an article or series on these in the Celator a few years ago, but I do not recall the publication dates nor the gist of the articles. You are in a good position to bring me up to speed.

Very attractive pieces, BTW.
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I think it probable that 'EF' has misspoken and of course they are "post reform" Folli. In fact of course it was Diocletian who introduced the follis as a replacement for the bronze radiates which no longer even deserved classification as antoniniani.

The follis had a strong ten year run under the tetrarchy but quickly deteriorated once the new 'constitution' of the principate dissolved into chaos with the usurpations by Constantine and Maxentius.

Nice coins
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Good catch. Fixed it! Thanks for the comments!
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Oh, I thought maybe I had missed something. No problem. I like the fact that he sought the whole group of 1st Tetrarchy players, and paired them by halves of the empire (caes - avg) with a matched set.

One minor point, since I see it caused some trouble. The word "follis" is not a second declension noun. It is a third declension I-stem noun. So the nominative plural of follis is not *folli, it is folles with a long-e vowel (sounds like "A"). I usually overlook stuff like that, but when three versions of the word come up in a short thread, I figure it won't hurt to set the record straight. No offense intended.
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