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Resolution Of Grading Conflicts

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 Posted 09/30/2015  12:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hnry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is there a formal process for resolution of grading conflicts between independent third party services?
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 Posted 09/30/2015  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None that I know of.

All grading is done based on standards and procedures set by each company. Each company offers their own "guarantee" and cannot say with certainty whether their rendered grade (on a specific coin) will grade the same, better or worse at another grading company.

It's all in the "fine print" on the submission form that you agree to and sign, but never read.
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 Posted 09/30/2015  07:47 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No and it's unlikely there ever will be. As westernsky noted, read the fine print on any submission form to find the disclaimer. Now if one TPG said genuine while another said questionable authenticity you might have a case if the coin was indeed counterfeit.
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 Posted 09/30/2015  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really because if the first one said genuine and the second said questionable the first one is off the hook if the second one or the submitter cracked it out. And if it is still in the first companies slab they can either stand by their original opinion, or if they take a second look and agree it is a fake they crack it and refund your grading fee if you were the original submitter, or pay out under their guarantee if you weren't. No matter what there is no resolution between the companies.

And it it is just a grade disagreement well each companies opinion is just that, an opinion. (Even though some people don't seem to think so, even an opinion from PCGS or NGC is not word sent down from on high, chiseled in stone and ever unchanging.) If you don't like that opinion you can try someone else.
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I doubt if there ever will be some sort of resolution to differing opinions of TPG's.

Although PCGS Photograde has done much to provide a visual standard which is open to publio inspection,
at the end of the day it is only the subjective opinion of the human grader who has graded an individual coin.

I nevertheless humbly thank PCGS for proving their visual grading standards.

It would be very difficult to provide a legal framework for resolution, if there is a differing and subjective opinion between the various TPG's. This allows room for the basement slabbers, unfortunately.

It is much better if the collector himself can make an informned opinion of his own coins, and at least reserve grading fees and shipping costs for the more valuable items in his collection, which he may consider selling. That gives a warm fuzzy feeling to an individual who is considering a more expensive coin.

The TPG company's policy should always be
"All care taken, but no responsibility can be accepted", and be a legal industry standard. Nobody whined about it.
Kodak used to have a similar policy for processing pictures.
That must be in the business statement and stated on every invoice of every TPGrading company.
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Thanks for the input folks...it appears that the old and wise saying still prevails: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
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