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I am pretty sad. Today I learned that chase, the bank, has decided to do something terrible! I don't know if this is all the banks, or just this branch. This branch was where I have found so many great finds. They also had a lot of cents. They told me that starting tomorrow (today forum time) you need an account and ID to get coins. I don't know if this can be School ID. Oh well. I will look into the situation.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like you need to open an account,savings. Keep the minimum amount in the account to keep it open,no biggy.
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stranger things have happened. Like when grocery stores requires a fingerprint to take a check!
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SSK,
Not sure where you are but here is my suggestion.
I live in the Los Angeles area (for now).
Forget the big banks like Chase, Wells Fargo, B of A especially.. Etc.
Try to find a smaller bank not like these huge mega banks.
Open a savings account where most will open sometimes as low as a $20 deposit and your in.
The megas will kill you in monthly charges.
That's why they are so strong and big. People just join and that's it.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  11:17 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stop CRH and move on banks hate you guys......there is no money in it for the banks . Also it would be more profitable to gain some real numismatic knowledge ,learn how to cherry pick and bone up on a few good books. After that frequent your local coin shops.
Time wasted frequenting banks that do not want you there anyways is time well wasted.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no reason for me to stop coin roll hunting. Not one. The banks already have enough money from us people, I have PLENTY of numismatic knowledge, I have read the books, I've memorized them, I cherry pick varieties out of the rolls, there is no local coin shop for miles and miles and miles upon miles around here, I can't legally get a job, I expand my collection with every coin I cherry pick. No need to belittle a perfectly rational hobby.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do Not Give Up CRH. And for sure don't give up the hobby. I sense you have what it takes to be a good numismatist.
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there is no local coin shop for miles and miles and miles upon miles around here,
I just googled coin shops where you live and a lot came up.
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I'm with PNC bank, and the tellers there are always accomodating. They only thing they ask for is my debit card, and I rarely ever withdraw money, so they just need it when I'm changing bills or getting cash for a check. I don't know why Chase would want an ID, you'd think they'd want one when cashing coins due to the potential scams associated with coin rolling, but that's a real mystery to me...
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Stop CRH and move on banks hate you guys......there is no money in it for the banks . Also it would be more profitable to gain some real numismatic knowledge ,learn how to cherry pick and bone up on a few good books. After that frequent your local coin shops.
Time wasted frequenting banks that do not want you there anyways is time well wasted.

I don't know why you are even posting in the CRH section if you despise it so much. Oftentimes the best place to find varieties is not at a coin shop (where everything is picked clean) but rather in circulation.

Basically you are calling all CRHers idiots for causing the banks "hassle" in pursuit of the hobby. I'm a customer at the bank I frequent the most, and they could care less about the matter. I'm always friendly, and they do not have to count my dumps, as they have a free coin counter in the lobby. All it is is a transaction for them, like cashing a check or making a deposit.

You obviously do not understand the purpose of this hobby, which is mainly to collect, not for profit but for enjoyment. Many people CRH to fill an album, which is what I have done and I know many people on here who do the same. It's a lot of fun, but I guess you don't want people to have fun. You want them to be unhappy like you.

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. This is the CRH forum, and there is no reason to go around trying to stop people from doing what they like to do.
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10/01/2015 1:56 pm
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I don't know why you are even posting in the CRH section if you despise it so much.


It seems they are beginning to come in small droves. I expect the larger droves of people telling others how the CORRECT way to coin collect will appear soon and I will watch it happen as nothing gets done about it.

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I got into this hobby by CRHing. Without it I probably would not be collecting today.
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I don't think there is any thing wrong with CRH itself, I do a roll or two of halves every week myself. What is annoying and in my opinion reflects badly on the whole coin collecting hobby is the feeling of entitlement some CRHunters seem to have, that is, that the banks should provide them with any and all of the rolls they want, anytime they want and take any dump coins, all with no charges, no restrictions, and no complaints, whether or not the CRHunter has an account or not, and justify their wants with the mantra of "I'm a customer, they should do it for me"
I'm a small business owner. I have customers who buy nothing, but come in just for me to test their water, but buy all of their supplies on the internet. I'll do it for them once or twice, but once it becomes obvious they don't intend to buy anything, I'll tell them to go have their internet supplier test their water. I can't do it for free forever and stay in business.
The bank is providing you with a service. It ain't free. It costs them, and if they can't make some money from you, they can't keep doing it.
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Here's the problem with that, banks are for putting the money made by the government out to the public. Their mission has changed over the past decades to give them self less work and reduce their responsibility to the public. Mostly this comes form CEOs and shareholders trying to add more gimmicks to the outrageous loan sharking banks do.

Banks are the reason the FRB has so many Ikes and "golden" dollars sitting because BANKS refuse to order them and use them. People don't have a choice and say. I just found out form 1 of my banks today that the BANK decided it would not offer bag of large dollars even to its business customers. Though banks get their bills from the FRB ordering system and right there the bags of coins also exist. the bank jsut refuses to offer it as a service. That is the whole reason the banks CAN get money from the FRB is because they are supposed to distribute it, but they are refusing to do so? [um]

Like many other places that have long gone deregulated, it might need more restrictions on banks and a reminder of what their duties are to the public. It isn't the job of the gas stations to make change for a dollar, but that is EXACTLY what many banks will tell you to do if you don't have an account.

Banks are just trying to find more ways to rip people off after the TARP incident and nobody is doing anything about it. Banks don't want coinage sitting around that most people don't ask for because most people don't even know they can get anymore since banks don't hand out halves when checks are cashed or $1 coins. They don't have a fear of being robbed why else would they only want to deal with bills and electronic payments? bills are what robbers in every movie or news broadcast go after! Banks are jsut downright lazy, like every other business and want to reduce the effort and raise the price. 16 oz can of vegetables for $1? Not anymore, not it is 14.75 oz in the can and they cost $1.25!

People don't use banks because they enjoy going to them they are ALWAYS a hassle that nobody enjoys doing, and the tellers don't enjoy it either having to deal with upset people, but it is the management of the banks that caused the problem so they can buy themselves a new yacht or backyard golf course!

People are just sick of it and too little too late figuring out they need to do something about it, but what can you do?

Banks just need to go back to accepting their responsibilities and then,MAYBE, they will have happy customers and people willing to open accounts. every added fee isn't like it wasn't work the salary paid tellers weren't doing before and the tellers salary isn't going up for it, so it is just a rip-off scheme.

You serve your bank, the banks no longer serve you. That is the problem.

IF banks could get away with it, they wouldn't have ANY coins for anyone unless it was a withdrawal or check cashing not even for businesses and some have even discussed it as being a removed feature for its customers! They forget when the business has to close up while it tracks down some quarters to make change with, then it will have less to deposit and invest from that business.

CEOs are not only the problem with modern banks, but with everything. They get paid to come up with more schemes to pay the CEOs more and do NOTHING for any business they are a part of. Pretty much just like politicians.

Also don't forget something major that was lost "The customer is always right." So it shouldn't matter if the account is business or personal, being able to trade your $10 bill for a roll of quarters should be a simple task.

the ONLY thing businesses do to impede banks with coinage is they stopped taking coins. One time at a Walmart I tried to spend a roll of halves and they said they couldn't take roleld coins, and told me to take them to the Coinstar. Then they tried to tell me they don't take halves anymore. Only when the manager came did the cashier get "educated" to "shut up and take the cash".

Here is something for you to ponder @jgfin:

You go into a store would the reject your $1 bills or count them for payment? They would take them. But a $1 coin they get scared about. Again, CEO and management policies and other reason as has been explained to me, but anywhere I say it when its the sotres reasons people get upset, so I will let you figure it out.

Just people don't want to use coins they have gotten complacent with plastic payments for everything since it requires less human work and the computers do it all. I personally can't wait for this hurricane right now to take out electronic banking on the east coast and see these lazy people have to learn how to handle cash when the power still works but the credit card machines are all down.
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I can't say for sure about this particular policy, but 99% of CRH problems I ran into are just branch related. In regards to PNC, 90% of branches can't (Won't) do anything for me but I have that one branch that is willing to order boxes until they are told to stop
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Jgfindring, pretty much hit the nail square on with his claw hammer. It is "rich" the sense of entitlement CRH so called numismatists have. Banks are a business like any other and are there for a profit and must answer to their customers and shareholders. To have a CRH come in and get let's say 200 rolls of nickels or what ever and then come back and redeem them is costly in time and money to a bank.
To discourage this some banks and credit unions are charging per roll above and beyond one or two rolls. Both of my banks, where we have most of our accounts charge 15 cents a roll out and 2 per cent deposit back over and above a couple of rolls.
Open question to CRH ers ......... Based on your real time involved just exactly what do you expect to find out there that would pay more than a minimum wage job. Coin roll hunting is not the same today as it was when I was a young numismatist. There were lots of scarce items and good silver coins available when I was a boy . Two paper routes were my funding source.
Some real good advice , all the time wasted coin roll hunting is better managed in other numismatic pursuits. Spend some of that time frequenting a local coin dealer or two or a flea market or even join a coin club. Drop the sense of entitlement that so many of you current CRH ers seem to have . There really is no place for socialism in numismatics ......
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Sounds like you need to open an account,savings. Keep the minimum amount in the account to keep it open,no biggy. John1


What's a "savings" account? Those disappeared in this country a long time ago.
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