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Getting Some Morgans Graded...ANACS?

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 Posted 10/04/2015  7:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TMCD75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm thinking of sending in five GSA CC Morgans and three other CC Morgans for grading. I read where Anacs doesn't command the top dollar on coins but that shouldn't be the case with GSA dollars, right?

Should I go with another grader, or go with Anacs? I'm not a member of any grading company, and I thought that you had to be a member of NGC? Opinions

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 Posted 10/04/2015  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sounded like you are out to sell it sometime in the future, I would go with NGC, as they leave the GSA packaging intact, not sure about ANACS or PCGS. If you're a ANA member, you can submit directly to NGC, or join NGC and get 5 coins submission plan.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TMCD75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't want to sell for twenty years, perhaps longer. I've seen the GSA dollars graded by all three services and they each keep them in the old government cases that are now collectibles too.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS does not tamper with the case in any way.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS keeps it in the original holder also. NGC and ANACS puts stickers on the holders that show the grade and are tamper evident. PCGS puts the whole thing in a holder so I guess if you're afraid of damaging the holder PCGS would be the best.

As for grading, I have heard that ANACS is the authority on Morgans, especially VAMs. For resale, NGC and PCGS are your best bets, but if you plan on holding on to them for 20+ years it's unpredictable which company will be the most respected, or even still exist.

A price comparison of the cheapest membership fees:
ANA(membership includes NGC submission privileges): $28 per year (https://www.money.org/account/join)
NGC: $39 (http://www.collectors-society.com/benefits.aspx)
PCGS: $69 (https://www.pcgs.com/store/memberships.aspx)

Ultimately, it's your decision. It depends on your reason for wanting them graded, what you plan on doing with them after, and how much you're willing to pay.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS is the oldest grading service, and the best if you dont want to spend a ton of money. In fact, I think next month they will be doing a 2 free submission special...

I'd go with ANACS, IMHO but it's up to you.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should look at joining either NGC or PCGS at a higher level than basic. Your entire fee is pretty much rebated in credits for grading and with you having more than a coin or two, this is perfect for you.


Unless you have varieties, then maybe ANACS.


My honest opinion, if you are going to submit coins on your own, join NGC at the $149/year and get the $150 grading credit and you have done well. I think that will take care of 6 Morgan dollars @ $25/coin submitted. If you are going to submit a ton of coins, at $300 you get 10% off but you only get the same $150 credit I think.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS is superior for identification and attribution of VAMs, especially the less common ones. However, there is a slight penalty in future resale value incurred vs. PCGS or NGC.

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 Posted 10/05/2015  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, everyone talks about the ANACS slabs not selling as high as
PCGS or NGC.

I recently did a search on ebay. I was looking at common Morgan's
graded MS 65. I did not see a lot of difference in price, between
the top three TPG's.

But there is a lot of difference in the prices to have the coins
graded.

Right now you can send in 10 to 30 coins to ANACS for $11.90
for each coin. You will have to pay shipping and insurance going
to ANACS, the return shipping is included in the $11.90.

In my experience the average cost for NGS and PCGS is between
$30 and $40 dollars per coin. I do want to say, I like NGC a lot,
but there price are getting so high, it is making some coin not
be cost effective to send in.

Most times sending in a common Morgan, the coin will have
to grade at least MS 64 to make it worth the cost, and that
is depending on how much you paid to purchase the coin.

These numbers will be much different for better date Morgan's.

I sent in 10 coins to ANACS, and 10 this month. Last months coins
have come back. Of them three were common date Morgan's.
I thought all three had a chance at 64 or 65 grades. Two did
make MS65, but one only got MS63. Getting a MS63 means
I pretty much wasted the money I spent getting it graded.
I am glad I only wasted $13 instead of $35 NGC would have
cost me.

I am not sure I agree with the MS63 grade, or I would not
have sent it in. But ANACS is suppose to be known to
grade Morgan's accurately. I will look at it again in a
week or so, hoping to see what they are seeing.

I know this went on a little long ... I just hope it helps in your
decision on where to send your coins.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been talking with a lot of dealers lately, and Saturday at a show over coffee and a cigarette 4 of us were talking TPG. The consensus was the vast majority of buyers want PCGS. The one dealer won't even keep a NGC or anacs graded coin in his inventory. He cracks them out and resubmits them or leaves them raw. The other 2 weren't so extreme but they said at their shops NGC coins definitely don't sell as fast or for as much as a same grade PCGS coin. The one thing they all agreed on was any ANACS coin knock minimum one point from the grade because all the new stuff is over graded. They said the older ANACS small size white holders coins are graded fairly accurate and those are a safe buy, but stay away from the new stuff. So if selling them is in your future you may as well bite the bullet and send them to PCGS.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I favor PCGS over NGC, but only very slightly. They both deservedly have very fine reputations. I would never buy an ANACS holder usless it was clearly a bargain or an unmarked variety. They typically appeal to a more cost-conscious tier of the collecting community. The reason they're less expensive is that they have to be in order to survive, given their checkered and inconsistent grading history. The mistake in submitting to ANACS will become clear when you try to re-sell some day. Many auction houses (Heritage, e.g.) will not even take ANACS slabs.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just for the heck of it looked at completed auctions for a 1881s Morgan in ms65. PCGS is averaging about $150, NGC is around a $140 average, ANACS is around $110. So you may save ~$20 in grading fees, but you could lose upwards of $30 in value when trying to resell it. Also as coinfrog said some auction houses won't sell an ANACS graded coin you could potentially have to pay to regrade the coin. Losing you even more money.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly.
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If I were going to hold onto the coins for 20+ years why get them graded now? It just adds to the expense of your coin.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TMCD75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I've got a ton of feedback, thanks guys!! I guess I may just hold off on getting them graded since I plan on keeping them for a long time. It would be nice to get them graded just to know where they stand. I have an idea but I'm no grading expert.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Correct. Wait until you are more sure of what to do.

Remember - there are hundreds of slabbed coins available every day on ebay that are available for far less than the original grading fee.
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