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Could This Be A Tooling Mark?

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It's not a scratch, raised on coin. Distorted area reverse side of coin that aligns with mark.


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Could we see the reverse?
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 Posted 10/07/2015  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add teo2015 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be a cracked die?
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Damage. You can see the upset metal.
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Also, how it tapers at the R... PMD
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Reverse side is Hawaii Volcano. Photo only shows some doubling lava bombs along reverse side of obverse feature. Error form comments die cracks are more jagged.


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Again this is a raised area on the coin, not a scratch. This feature comes from the die.
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If it is raised, why is the raised part of R in AMERICA glary, and the cut going through it not shiny? Because there is a shadow inside the valley of the cut.
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The easiest way I can see to compare damage vs mint error would be to damage a quarter in a similar way. Hold a quarter in some vice grips and scratch it with a screwdriver. You should have made a very similar looking coin. With the scratch moving metal out of the gouge it will feel raised. A true die crack the entire crack is raised not just the edges. This thread has a very good picture of a die crack you can compare to your coin.
https://goccf.com/t/176934
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Again it is not a scratch, it is a raised area on the coin. It must have been produced when the coin was struck. If this is a unique feature then it is probably collectable. So far the best answer I've gotten is a big die scratch or toolmark.
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I have to agree with albertharris. Based on light direction, it looks raised to me.
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Could you provide an angled, close up picture of the line where it passes through Washington's neck?
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Closeup photo: note die chip on top of mark!


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Tooling would only affect one level of the die. The fields are the outside edge and deeper die (areas raised upward on the coin) would not be tooled like this. It is coin damage.
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As I stated in the other thread, angled cuts will vertically displace metal. What you see is a shard of metal directly related to the cutting action, not a die chip.
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Yes. It does look more like a cut in the second photo.
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