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Valued Member
Canada
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Hi everyone, I hadn't purchased any ancient coins in a while until I got the itch this morning. Here are the new additions:    I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the A1 stands for on the Licinius coin. Also, the hemiobol is a whopping 4mm. :D Thanks! Erin |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's not "A1" it's a <delta iota> (= "four" "ten"), the Greek numeral 14 for the 14th officina (mint workshop). Workshops were assigned to an issue, and often not all of them struck for one particular issue or another.
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Pillar of the Community
 Spain
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Nice Licinius !!
Just wanted to see if I could identify this coin on my own from the info given to me from echizento and irbguy,thanks again for helping!
Bust 11,Obverse 12,Reverse 29,Type32,Mintmark ANT Antioch 14th officina.
RIC VII 17
Grade: VF
Am I anywhere near !?
Saludos Palouche
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:
Bust 11,Obverse 12,Reverse 29,Type32,Mintmark ANT Antioch 14th officina.
RIC VII 17
It helps to specify which catalog system you are using. It appears that you are using ERIC, and for that you are correct right down the line. Ras cross references to an abbreviated RIC number by giving the mint designation in the details of the design. For RIC the bust type is B4. For the mint at Antioch in the years 315-316, with ANT in the exergue and the officina mark in the right field. Obverse inscription 2 RIC VII Antioch 17. @Johndakerftw What is the weight on that 4mm hemiobol? |
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thanks for the info everyone!
The weight on the hemiobol is 0.3 g. It's from Gitbud & Naumann and the other two are from Zurqieh.
Erin
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United States
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i saw that mysia coin at GN while I was shopping for this, picked it up just a few hours before you got yours...  i remember thinking that was a nice little coin for the price, if I didn't already have one I would have snagged it myself. nice lookin' licinius as well! i like a good mix of coin types...good pic ups! |
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Valued Member
Canada
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That is a nice looking tetradrachm, chrsmat.
I've been wanting a tiny coin for a while and this one popped up. I can't wait to hold it and compare to my Ptolemy coin. #128515;
I've also been wanting an Agrippa coin and just happened upon Licinius for $15.
I'm happy with the haul. :)
Erin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Congrats - nice pick-ups, Erin. And, Chris - wow, great Philadelphos!
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New Member
United States
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The "Agrippa I" coin is NICE... So many are poorly struck. But this one has readable legends: King Agrippa in Greek. Good job !
Mike
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New Member
United States
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BTW... What's your interest in Agrippa?
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks Mike and Bob!
I'm mostly interested in coins related to the Bible. Since Herod Agrippa was the grandson of Herod the Great, I thought I would add it to the collection.
I'd like to eventually get a coin from each member of the Herodian Dynasty.
Erin
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Belgium
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THe first coin is a coin of Licinius I not the II , who has never been Augustus , but Caesar from 317/314.The delta iota is a mintmark , not an indication of an officina : 17 = iota delta written in Greek .The number of officinae for this period in not know,I think.albert
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks for the added info, Albert!
Erin
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United States
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Sorry Albert, but for lrb the officina number is part of the mint mark, along with the name of the mint, wherever that appears, and SOME of the field marks but not always and not all. These elements are not always conjoined. That is the mark representational pattern followed in LRBC which preceded the volume by Bruun and was used by him as a reference. This numeral is listed in RIC VII, for this coin, along with the other officina numbers assigned to this design seriatum. It does correspond to the Greek numeral 14 which is not dependent upon the order of the constituent number elements.
However, you are correct that this coin is for Licinius I, not Licinius II who does not appear on the coinage until about two years later. The RIC number I gave earlier is for the senior. The ID in ERIC is also correct, so I think its appearance here was just a typo I had overlooked. Mea culpa.
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Belgium
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The Greeks had a very well ordenend system of counting since about the 4th century BC when the Ionic system replaced the Attic.Each letter had its value and there where three old letters always used : digamma , koppa (still used on some coins from Kroton) and sampi.To know the value , you have to total the numerals in the same order as we use them :so tau kappa alpha = 300 + 20 + 1 =321.So the iota delta cant be a number of an afficina because it is not a number .It is a controlemark that we can not explain.If I remeber well , there were only 6 or 7 officinae in Antiochia.albert
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