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I donīt have any idea whatīs this .....a coin a... a token....? could anybody help me ? Thanks in advance

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 Posted 10/20/2015  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not sure about this, it looks very primitive for a 1925 coin, looks to be copper (or copper alloy) and to me it looks hand hammered
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I am really sorry staff but it was my desperation to get an ID of this thing that impulsed myself to make the big error of writing in capital letters.
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The diameter is 19 mm and it weighs 2,37 grs. Thanks a lot
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The design is reminiscent of the US gold dollars of the 1800s....wish I could tell you more.
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The obverse is indeed copying the "Indian Princess" portrait used on the US $3 coin in the 1850s-1880s.

The reverse looks like it gives a denomination and date, but no country name. Couldn't quite make out the denomination either-- HEFVPLIVAL? HEMPUVAL? Can't play around with the weak letters to make this into a word I can recognize.

It's not an official coin of any real country. My best guesses:

1. Fantasy piece, pure and simple.

2. Undocumented or little known attempt at creating a micronation. Around the same time in the UK, an eccentric businessman bought a small island, declared it to be a sovereign nation and himself to be its king, and made coins (the Lundy Puffin and Half Puffin). His coins entered circulation in the UK, and he got into a whole heap of trouble with the law. This could be a similar attempt that fizzled out before gaining much attention.
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Maybe he should've made $1,329,063 bills just like the ones in MAD magazine so he wouldn't get caught...
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Hello Finn235:
With the magnifier I use I can read the word : Heripuval . I have tried all the combinations that are possible with that word in google and nothing. What I only know is that Puval is a french last name. I beg your pardon but I donīt really believe is just a " fantasy piece" . Observing the coin with my own eyes I believe that it has to have an history. I hope that maybe somebody in the forum will arrive with more information.(Anyway the history of the British businessman with the island and the coins is amazing ! )
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princ...y_of_Sealand
In 2006, half of the country burned down!
http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook...nd_Fire.html


Perhaps your token is a German one, from Africa.
In that period, a lot of local tokens were made there, because the cost would be to high to make them in Germany and export them to Africa
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To Finn235 : Very interesting this article that is not Not exactly related to this Token,nor related with the date neither , but has to do with the topic : "In the financial panic of 1837, merchants took to issuing their own cent and half-cent "Hard Times" tokens with political and commercial slogans....."

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--F6HZuVrOfs/TtJpm_ehpjI/AAAAAAAAXIw/ALqLRbk-u1w/s1600/008_US_Half_Cent.jpg&imgrefurl=http://john-adcock.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html&h=616&w=1173&tbnid=18b5UdP8ZLSY3M:&docid=00kuEHLPmAMWlM&ei=5MwnVpvhEMKteo6It5AE&tbm=isch&ved=0CEsQMyhIMEg4ZGoVChMIm-OY8YzUyAIVwpYeCh0OxA1C

To petrus:I have been researching German Tokens in Africa but at this moment I have nothing relevant to say about my piece, that seems to be a Token...


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I'm almost convinced that this is a fantasy issue. The design is exact of that of a US $1 gold coin. The inscription is the only thing that's different. It's clearly supposed to mimic a $1 piece. Maybe "Heripuval" is the minter's surname?
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