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1966 LMC Might This Be A Collar Clash? Or What Is It?

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Isn't that called Die Attrition?
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Yes, a die attrition error.
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My first thought was die attrition. But if the line is raised on the coin as picture suggest to me, wouldn't the upper side of it be filled in a bit more from die wear?

Currently see where the left side begins, but stops at the T in Trust.

Thanks, Doug.
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Thanks for you comments.


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wouldn't the upper side of it be filled in a bit more from die wear?


Is this correct? I thought first of die attrition also, but rejected it since the line is so distinct and is not filled in between the line and the rim. The line does stop at the T. I believe that die attrition is seen above the W, especially, and perhaps the E. I do not understand how that connects to the line itself. (In other words, I do not see, theoretically, any concatenation).
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This coin is intriguing. On studying it a bit more closely, I notice what may be a clash from the top of the Memorial. It is a bit too low...unless the dies were a bit misaligned for the clash as indicated by the photo of a possible collar clash at the beginning of the post.



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The Line through the "WE" are looks like a concentric die gouge along the field of the die. It is not die attrition. The metal is raised on the affected area to the rim.
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The line on the gouge in the die, leaves just a small area affected.
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looks like a concentric die gouge


Thank you. I am wondering what might cause such a thing?
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I doubt that anyone is interested in this. However, working on the theory that these marks are clash marks (both the concentric line through WE and the short line from the bust left of 1), I have put together an overlay and it is interesting. It shows a slight rotation and that the line to the left of 1 would come from the second ridge on the roof top.



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When dies are polished, they get moved around a lot. The fields are the outside part of the die. So contact/damage does happen.
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