Fake PCGS Slab Fake 1893-S Morgan ?

Looks fake to me.

Yikes... so sad..

Look at the type font on the label. Fake slab. Look at the 1 in the date not centered over a dentil. Even in the crappy photos I can tell both are fake.

Best Regards,

George

The 1893 S is a fake as the date is not in the correct position. The seller also has listed a 1893 CC that is also a fake. 181911971420

Here is the real 1893 CC coin.






Below is the sellers fake 1893 CC:

Both gone.

I am glad I posted that in here. Good to see that the seller was stopped. Your efforts definitely saved some poor soul a few thousand. I am just glad the fake slabs are still not that good. I am in no way a seasoned collector. I have been doing it for a few years and learning all that I can from this community. You all are great! Pat on the backs

ebay used to have people that did just that, westernsky, but sellers and dealers protested that their listings were being removed unfairly, that there was insufficient evidence, that the people who were accusing them of being forgeries were not qualified to do so, and some of the larger sellers who got caught "in the act" were threatening lawsuits and libel actions. In addition, the people who were working with ebay were few in number, and given the arduous task of reviewing hundreds of thousands of listings. It was also rather thankless, since delisted items would simply be relisted, and deregistered accounts were soon reopened under new names. They would need 1,000 Bobby's for zapping the thousands of fakes that get posted daily, and that's just in Coins.

ebay profits from forgery sales: they receive their listing fee/FVF, and yet they are protected from liability by virtue of plausible deniability: "We didn't know the listed item was a forgery." Claims against ebay by victims are onerous in the burden they place on the victim and minimal on the one placed on the seller: the victim must prove that the item is fake, instead of the seller being required to prove its authenticity. That does not make ebay a willing partner, or imply that they condone sales of fake merchandise (they most definitely do not), merely that as a business there is no incentive to induce them to take some major actions against forgeries - they have low exposure to risk + there are very large costs to hire qualified employees in numismatic forgeries and counterfeits. When they see fakes, they delist them and NARU the offenders if needed, but it's a handful of little boys and their fingers vs. a Great Wall of China-sized dike that looks like Swiss cheese.

You might think that not buying raw coins is a good start, but the quality of the fake slabs is increasing as much as the quality of the fake coins, which is why NGC and PCGS and others are in a neverending battle, much like currency designers, to make their product tamper-resistant and discourage counterfeiting.

In the meantime, if you suspect a fake, report it, please. Crowdsourcing is the only real way of getting the number of "eyes" needed to scan those hundreds of thousands of listings and report the questionable ones.