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1993-D LMC Strange Crack

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Any comments on this?



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 Posted 10/25/2015  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a die crack to me, unless the center is incuse - then it would be PSD.
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It's not a die crack. If it were a die crack, the line would be raised, but it looks incuse to me.
Maybe a small lamination or other planchet defect.
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10/25/2015 9:59 pm
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Maybe a small lamination or other planchet defect.


Is a lamination possible on a plated cent? Might it be a plating peel?
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Is a lamination possible on a plated cent?

No, I completely missed the date.
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It is ok - I stay confused and miss dates!

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I have been still puzzling over this. I tried a photo at an angle. It appears that the field to the SW of this feature is raised higher than the field to the NW. This is leading me to think that it is a bi-level die crack. What am I missing?



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Looks like it is raised because of split plating? I see zinc in the last image. What split it? I'm not sure.
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I see zinc in the last image.


If it were a bi-level die crack, wouldn't zinc be visible also?
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I don't this so as a die crack is incuse. An incuse line on the die would show as raised on the coin. But circulation may have split the raised crack open exposing the zinc making it raised?
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But circulation may have split the raised crack open exposing the zinc making it raised?


I can understand this.

However, I do not understand what you are saying here:


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I don't this so as a die crack is incuse.


Did you leave a word out?
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I was answering your question:

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If it were a bi-level die crack, wouldn't zinc be visible also?


But I see what I forgot: I don't this so as a die crack is incuse on the die.


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I don't think so, as a die crack is incuse on the die.
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Thanks CM - I understand the message now. Of course I know that...and it produces a raised area(line) on the coin. It may be perspective and/or light/shadow plays, but in the last image I posted, the arrows sit on an area of the field which appears raised - higher than the area on the opposite side of the crack/line. I don't know what is going on between the last arrow and the Memorial top, but it looks like zinc deterioration to me.

So I continue to lean in the direction of thinking that this is a bi-level die crack.
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I don't think it's a bi-level, Pete. If it were, you'd see more zinc/rot. I believe the area you're seeing as raised is plating pushed up from oxidation underneath. There is no displacement due to the crack.
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It's a 93-D Bizzaro Crack.
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