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2003-D LMC Possible Wide Collar

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I think this may be a wide collar. I know it is a MAD, also. The diameter is 19.15mm. The definition below contains my added emphasis, because that is the way I discovered this coin. I had placed it in the tube thinking that it was only a slight MAD. The coin does not have vertical collar cracks which are not required for a wide collar. The definition is from: http://www.error-ref.com/?s=wide+collar


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Wide Collar
Definition: A coin struck inside a collar whose diameter is wider than normal. This rare error is subtle and is often only detected when an otherwise normal-looking coin gets stuck in a plastic storage tube or won't fit in its designated hole inside a cardboard Dansco album.





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This one looks like split plating where the edge of the die pierced it through.
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coop - I took a close up of the area I think you are seeing. I can't say whether it is split plating or not, but either way I don't know what that says about this being a wide collar (?)


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Nice find !
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The edge look normal? (wondered if it was a partial collar?)
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The edge look normal? (wondered if it was a partial collar?)


The edge looks normal - I checked for that. Not a partial collar.
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How would a wide collar get used at the mint? Does the U.S. mint still make coins for other countries?
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How would a wide collar get used at the mint? Does the U.S. mint still make coins for other countries?


From: http://www.error-ref.com/?s=wide+collar



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An abnormally wide collar can arise in several ways:

1. A collar intended for a different (perhaps foreign) denomination is inadvertently installed in a press.

2. A smooth-faced collar is mistakenly machined too wide.

3. A reeded collar is widened beyond normal tolerances through the use of an incorrect ridged broach that is
hammered into the collar opening.

4. A normal collar is not replaced in a timely manner and widens due to prolonged use.

5. The presence of three or more vertical collar cracks allows the collar to expand.The last two circumstances are probably the most common causes of this error.
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