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Looks like a large date with the Small date reverse. (But Variety vista only lists one)  They may have started out with fresh dies on the Large dates. Thus the two lines on the podium. First time I've seen this combination, but there maybe more? Edited by coop
11/04/2015 4:47 pm
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Thanks coop.
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11/05/2015 08:47 am
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(But Variety vista only lists one) I have searched for a source describing 1974-D Large Date with Small Date Reverse and have not found it. This makes me think, coop, that you discovered this variant. Is that true? Have you published this somewhere? By the way, I have also noticed that this coin has about a 15-20 die rotation. Interesting. Edited by Pete2226
11/05/2015 09:04 am
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It's not published any where yet. Just something I noticed about these years ago. They maybe the same reverse, but fresher dies with the double line. But most I've seen were that way. Yours is the first one that was different. (The dies may have been fresh at one time, so there may be more of them out there. Time will tell)
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That is an amazing site - thanks! However, I think I am more confused now, though! For 1974 he shows Obverse #1,#2,#3 and Reverse #1,#2,#5. Where do those numbers originate? None of them appear to be small date. All of his Reverses appear to have two lines on the pedestal. I do not think that his Reverse numbers correspond to the Reverse Design Varieties found on Variety Vista because the years they were in use don't match. Also Variety Vista does not refer to reverse design varieties by lines on the pedestal, but by characteristics of AM and FG. And they only know of one Reverse for 1974. Also Variety Vista does list both large and small date, but does not show a 3rd design variety and the numbers there are 031 and 032. So I still do not know if there is a source for the varieties which relate to lines on the pedestal other than coop's images - which, if there is no other source, would mean to me that coop was the one who discovered that connection and no one else has yet recognized it. That is why I was asking coop if he had published this information. So I remain confused about this.  Edited by Pete2226
11/05/2015 3:08 pm
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Sorry, coop - I was composing my last post while you were responding!  |
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So if I understand this correctly, what we really need to find is a small date with a reverse which has strong details and 2 lines near the top of the statue base. Wouldn't that prove that they are the same reverse and that mine most likely just has a worn die? It seems to me that just one example would be adequate to prove that, wouldn't it?
I have done some searches looking for one, but all the photos I am finding do not provide enough detail to determine.
I am tempted to start a new thread asking folks to check their 1974 cents!
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That's about right Pete...it only takes one example to contradict a theory. Ask Chanticleer.
I haven't looked for this variety but John brought it up not too long ago. What are the combinations and which are thought to be rarer? Maybe this is something I should be looking for when flipping cents. Like the 1988 Transition cents? More plentiful?
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I think the reverse design changed in 1974. It was a transition year, so there is a possibility that some 1974 cents have the reverse of the 1973 cents. Add that to your confusion! |
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Confusion to start is find...hopefully leads to the pursuit of answers. Interesting thread. It's clear there are folks out there that have invested significant time into the hobby/field and I'm so glad that they choose to share their knowledge. I generally pass over searching 1974 cents but now I'm more invested in studying this date. And thanks for the link cwb. |
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Because of the results we found in the other thread (link above) I am concluding that there is no unique small date reverse, but it is rather VLDS.
Thanks to everyone for contributing to the process!
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