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So Called Dollars To Be Listed In Upcoming Deluxe Redbook

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Interesting tidbit from Jeff Shevlin.

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 Posted 11/05/2015  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope he picked a few Hawaii related SCDs...

https://coins.www.collectors-societ...aspx?s=12173
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I can'y remember last time I bought a coin, I have been too busy tracking down so called dollars. This is a great addition!
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if it is you will be sitting pretty
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Interesting tidbit from Jeff Shevlin.


Since the tidbit of an article is dated Nov. 3, I assume Mr. Shevlin means the So-Called Dollars will be in the 2017 Deluxe edition when he states "next edition" (since the 2016 Deluxe is already out).
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I have several of these , I picked up over the years.

I didn't even know they had a name ....l

I will be curious, to read the RedBook information, when
it comes out
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A selection of 60 is a very small number given there are hundreds and hundreds of them.

Don't get your hopes up for any Hawaiian pieces -- they are late in the series, and generally the more collectible and popular SCDs are the ones from the 1800s and the first 20 years of the 1900s.
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I agree, a figure of 60 is still better than nothing.

Hopefully, reference sources will be provided (so those interested can further pursue their interest in SCD).
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The Hawaii related SCD are actually cataloged in two major numismatic books:

Medcalf and Russell, Hawaiian Money Standard Catalog 2nd Edition (cataloged as medals)

Hibler and Kappen, So-Called Dollars.

I recently purchased the HK book so that I can say...

"I purchased the "coin" before the book." (not a typo)

I have one of the plate coins (and possibly a future one).

Both are top pops and with only 11 known uniface pairs produced. My pair has an established pedigree.

R-8 = 5 to 10 known

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Don't get your hopes up for any Hawaiian pieces -- they are late in the series, and generally the more collectible and popular SCDs are the ones from the 1800s and the first 20 years of the 1900s.


This forum is a good place to share information to other collectors. Yes. Hawaii is the newest state. But Hawaii also have a few SCD from the early 1900s.

This is a 1914 Mid-Pacific Carnival SCD. On the obverse is the olympian Duke Kahanamoku (a Native Hawaiian) who was on the U.S. Swimming team and won gold for the U.S at the 1912 Olympics. Duke Kahanamoku is considered the father of modern surfing.

One of the problems that I have pointed out at other forums is the issue with SCD identification by mutiple books. In the provided example, this is also a HK-721. This dual NGC identification now actually skews their census for a few SCDs.

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There are also other Hawaii related SCD not in the currently published reference guides...This is a recent one that I found with supporting referenced sources.
http://thehawaiiananumismatist.com/...mer-of-1925/

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An iconic SCD mistake that most do not know about. And it's condition rarity being intact (HK-722a). This SCD was produced roughly in 1958. It was believed that Hawaii was to be the 49th State. Actually, Alaska was proclaimed the 49th state and later Hawaii the 50th state.

Majority of the this SCD has a drilled out "49". If you remember your NGC DETAILS guidelines, holed specimens are given a DETAILS designation. Current NGC "intact" population is 3. The HK book does not identity the difference between a holed and intact specimen nor its condition rarity being intact. (The HK book actually has a plate medal with a hole).

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It took me some time to find this SCD and I am debating if I should get it slabbed by NGC (its in a mid-tier TPG holder). I believe this will be the top pop for the HK-722a series.
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Very few SCD collector care about slabs or "top pops". Just an FYI -- which I presume you already know.

Nice items you posted above.

I still contend, the selection of SCDs in the "Deluxe RedBook" will be so small, that I would guess it will have zero effect on that market or general interest.
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It is pretty cool that they will have this. I would like to see more information about the modern so called dollars from the 60's and 70's. I had a big box of "tokens" from when I was younger. I sold what I thought were nice looking tokens on ebay years ago before I knew what they were. Including a very beautiful butterfield overland stage so called dollar and a few others that I don't remember. I thought it was bizarre that this particular one went for so much. I wish I had kept it. I only have 2 modern so called dollars I did not sell.
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7/10/2016 - Update from So-Called Dollar Guy (Jeff Shevlin).


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It is my opinion that the 2017 Mega Red Book exposure helped with the recent SCD prices.

It would be interesting to see the sales of the Hibler Kappen book and/or traffic to the Hibler Kappen online reference http://so-calleddollars.com/
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Beautiful small set:)


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Is this publication still happening? I'd love to see this, mainly for the 1915 Panama-Pacific Exposition pieces and who-knows-what else I might want to pick up.
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