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Shipping To Canada Via Letter Mail & Customs

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If mailing a coin via letter mail to Canada for example, is a customs form required?

https://www.usps.com/international/...national.htm

I have noticed that coins that get sent to me via letter mail from Canada do not use the customs form. So I am a little unsure.

It also appears that First Class International is now $1.20

Anyways, it's $7.10 to mail a single coin in a bubble mailer while it's only $1.20 to ship via letter.
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Anyways, it's $7.10 to mail a single coin in a bubble mailer while it's only $1.20 to ship via letter.

Wow!
Looks like I cannot afford sending my hoard to you Mike.Mcshilling
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lol yeah the shipping prices are quite drastic depending on how the coins are packaged. It's insane. I punched in some numbers on the USPS shipping calculator and those were the results I got. Seems like a bit much.
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Looks like I cannot afford sending my hoard to you Mike


Sure you can, I'll give you my Soo MI address and pick it up when I go over.
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I want to be able to ship coins to Canada on ebay but the shipping costs seem prohibitive. Does anyone know about needing a customs form for mailing a coin in a letter envelope?
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The experiment has begun! Sometimes the only way to find out answers to one's questions is to attempt them and see what happens.
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I have mailed coins in a first class business envelope to Canada many times, never filled out a customs form for them, no problems with any of them. Same for Australia and United Kingdom, by the way, at least as long as it is in a regular envelope and not too thick. Even a small package is very different however.
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Regular letter mail has worked for me in the past. Disguised in thick pieces of paper and weighs approx 2-3 oz. Up to 5 (small) coins in a letter. Cost $1.20 - $2.20. No problems so far. Any other way is expensive.
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You want a LEGAL answer? Yes, it is required to have a declaration whenever and however you ship merchandise, regardless of whether it's a letter, parcel or truck load of whatever.

You want a practical answer? Unless something causes the post office (of either country) to look at the letter, it will probably sail through. However... if they do have reason to check, you'll probably lose the merchandise as an illegal shipment.
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A declaration is required stating the contents (coins or numismatics)
There are no duties applicable in Canada (or export taxes by the American) shipper. Value for Canadian customs is only the invoice price; taxes and shipping costs are not considered for customs purposes (as it was explained to me). For small valued items the 5% (Federal) General Sales Tax is often waived as it is not economic to collect. Since National governments don't generally like to collect provincial (state) government taxes they too are often not collected on the junior governments behalf. It is likely different in those jurisdictions that have Harmonized Sales Tax (i.e. agreed by statute and the Feds collect both taxes and remit to the province its share.)
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Yeah, I had hoped to ship small shipments of inexpensive coins and yes I heard it was expensive.
The cheapest was about $7.50 depending on weight and that's if you do it online not at the post office. I have shipped within the US by paying the extra fee for it not being bendable and I think within the us this is OK. At least when I told the post office that it was merchandise they didn't seem to mind.
I have heard rants and ravings about the frustration of this and really understand. If you ship merchandise you must be a business so we will milk you for as much as we want. Forget fair. Some Canadian sellers are even finding that it's cheaper to mail from the US to Canada then to mail within Canada.
One person situated themselves so they could go back and forth to save on shipping. Now there's an interesting idea.
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You really need to fill out the customs form; keeps you "legal". Now, you can mark on the form it is a GIFT; and you can put any value on it you want. NEVER write coins or anything like that--gets too much attention.
One other point is that in some countries it is ILLEGAL to import money; just FYI.
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I remember when I sent a silver dollar in a trade here to canada, without any customs crap. It arrived safe and sound... Oops, but atleast it got there...
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So if I mail from the 1st class to Ontario, a book as a Gift and include inside that book several silver canadian coins, am I breaking any laws? Will they likely get to the destination?

How 'bout a tri-layer (cover stock) birthday card with a coin taped inside cardboard to fit the envelope?
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I am revisiting this. I may want to ship a coin to Canada from a possible buyer here on CCF. Still have the same dilemma. I want to be legal but that legality now charges $9.50 to mail a 1 ounce bubble mailer to Canada. And I am still unsure if a customs declaration form can be attached to a business sized envelope.
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