1946-P Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die Obverse / DDO 10 - Early Die State?

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OcalaFlorida Pillar of the Community United States 2824 Posts	Posted 11/11/2015 3:37 pm This 1946-P Lincoln Wheat cent looks to be a 1946P-1DO-010 but appears to be at a much earlier state as has the details of the doubling and not just the thickness on the date, motto, and LIBERTY. Is this correct? very confused on this one Any comments, feedback, suggestions welcome 1946P-1DO-010 I included larger images of each part as it better shows detail Report this Post to the Staff

coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 11/11/2015 5:23 pm I see a normal coin. The 4 is master die doubling as well as LIBERTY. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3332 Posts	Posted 11/11/2015 7:27 pm Quote: The 4 is master die doubling as well as LIBERTY. Question: How do you know it is *master* die doubling and not die doubling? Also, is master die doubling not qualified as being a doubled die? Confused! Edited by Pete2226 11/11/2015 7:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 11/11/2015 10:08 pm The master die would create the same doubling on all coins made from that chain. Master die-Working hubs-working dies. This would affect a very large percentage of the coins. So you will see this commonly on several dies and sometimes over several years if the master die has an issue. While they are a doubled die, with the large percentage of dies affected from all three mints, then it would be so common to not take note of. Edited by coop 11/12/2015 02:02 am Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 11/11/2015 10:08 pm Master die doubling is a doubled die, the master die imparts the doubling to different dies, so with all those doubled dies, value is marginal. The doubled dies created from one die are far fewer, and command a higher premium. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3332 Posts	Posted 11/12/2015 06:37 am I am understanding what you are saying. But I do not understand how you *know* that a certain coin was master die doubling...or even hub doubling for that matter. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 11/12/2015 9:02 pm The same way you would know any Doubled Die, it is a variety with it's own characteristics. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 11/13/2015 12:58 am When you find many examples with the same doubling from different dies, (Working hub damage/doubling) then you know it was a common event. When there is a larger the number of those affected, it tells you that it is master die doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3332 Posts	Posted 11/13/2015 05:41 am Thank you CM and coop. Quote: The same way you would know any Doubled Die, it is a variety with it's own characteristics. Quote: When there is a larger the number of those affected, it tells you that it is master die doubling. I can understand this. What it means to me is that there is no way that I, as a novice, can differentiate between a doubled die, a master doubled die, and a hub doubled die. The reasons I cannot do this are: I know of no reference which lists the characteristics of each of these types (did I miss something?) I know of no reference which lists the known numbers of each type (how many examples would it take to qualify as being master die doubling and to be hub doubling?) Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 11/13/2015 11:26 am A lot of publications you can get for a series of doubled die coins often tells the 9 classes of doubled dies. The listings you can find on different sites for different denominations. coppercoins.com/ (cents) Variety Vista (Several denominations): http://varietyvista.com/ Wexler die varieties: http://www.doubleddie.com/1801.html (Also lists the different classes of doubled dies - explanation) Doubled die Nickels: http://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings (nickels) Trial dies Listings: http://www.traildies.com/ Cuds on coins: http://cuds-on-coins.com/ Variety vista has a free download for nickel RPMS. http://varietyvista.com/ (bottom right hand corner on home page) This should keep you busy. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3332 Posts	Posted 11/13/2015 11:58 am Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 11/13/2015 9:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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1946-P Lincoln Wheat Cent DDO 10 - Early Die State?