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Disappointed With ANACS Submission Of 1922 No "D" Penny.

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 Posted 11/16/2015  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob Levi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to wonder if the D was tooled off and maybe the corrosion was intentional to hide the fact.
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 Posted 11/16/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was under the impression that only pennies with a reverse that strong were only from die pair 2. Very confused, it has the sharper last 2 in the date, trust is more defined, strong reverse, which die set could this have come from if not 2? Just genuinely curious, not trying to say anybody is wrong really.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't they have bodybagged it as altered?
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 Posted 11/17/2015  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nobody said it was altered, you're assuming it's altered. For whatever reason I'm not aware of.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You won't believe the response I got after writing then an email... This is making my head hurt. For one he says my coin was a 1922 plain struck in Philadelphia? They did not mint any coins there, Denver only. Second, he says it's a 1922 plain and not a no D? Those would be considered the exact same thing correct? I thought my head was spinning before. How can I take this company seriously?

Thank you for contacting us and for the submission,



This is not a case of us being conservative, the coin is not a 1922 No "D". It is just a 1922 plain, struck in Philadelphia. While we do prefer to give our submitters good news, our accuracy is most important.



Please let us know if you need anything else,



Paul A. DeFelice, Vice President

Marketing and Client Relations

ANACS Coin Grading

Thank you for contacting us and for the submission,

This is not a case of us being conservative, the coin is not a 1922 No "D". It is just a 1922 plain, struck in Philadelphia. While we do prefer to give our submitters good news, our accuracy is most important.



Please let us know if you need anything else,



Paul A. DeFelice, Vice President

Marketing and Client Relations

ANACS Coin Grading
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 Posted 11/17/2015  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reply to the email with "Huh? There were no cents made in Philadelphia in 1922"

Ask them to call you to discuss the problem.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is just a 1922 plain, struck in Philadelphia.

Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that...
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 Posted 11/17/2015  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ximon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is just a 1922 plain, struck in Philadelphia.


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Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that..


And it's coming from the Vice President of a rather known TPG. I know that no one knows everything, but typing into google "1 cent 1922 no mint mark" will get thousands of results saying that there were no cents minted in Philly mint. I did not know that before either, but found out just by typing it into google, for my own knowledge, not too mention that I would triple check and better my knowledge if I was to write an email like that TPG.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On that note would you agree it's justifiable to demand a refund?
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 Posted 11/17/2015  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ximon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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On that note would you agree it's justifiable to demand a refund?

I can't really say what you should do, but if I was 100% sure that it is a true 1922 no D I would ask for a refund on the base of incorrect recognition and therefor grading of that coin (and even then it would be hard to prove that it is the case and they might say that it is whatever they graded as because it's your word against theirs), under any other circumstance it is difficult to say as to who is right. But this is just me.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm very new to this all but I really had a good feeling this was a 1922 plain. I've even read that it could be considered one if there's even a bump where the mint mark is. As long as it doesn't resemble a "d" in any way shape or form. Kinda wanting to submit it to a different company but at the same time not wanting to dump any more money into it. I will be trying to get in touch with them again tomorrow concerning this odd reply I got today. In frustration earlier today I cracked the holder open with a pair of wire strippers and freed the penny from it's cocoon of disappointment.
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 Posted 11/18/2015  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS just lost a lot of credibility in that one e-mail. A lot.
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 Posted 11/18/2015  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think based on the response from the marketing guru ANACS mislabeled your coin as a 1922-d instead of 1922-p.
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 Posted 11/18/2015  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow.... Just wow.... needless to say I probably won't be sending anything to ANACS now....
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 Posted 11/18/2015  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He obviously wasn't paying attention. But I feel ANACS probably thinks there is a D there according to the slab. I would definitely email them back though. I live in the Denver area and always drop my coins off and pick them up. They are very nice, good to work with and help out with any questions I have with grading or anything else.
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