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Update: to address concerns and verify this is indeed an "A to denticle", I have posted comparison photos below.One of today's finds. Actually I found two today, but this one first,  There's a few mild dings on this coin, discoloration and some directional scratching, but doesn't appear to be whizzed on my scope. Some mint luster remains on the front and back with portions a nice red-brown color. I'm mentioning all this because I'd like to give this one away, or more accurately: trade it for something I might like. Since I paid only 0.60 for this, I'll be pretty flexible as to grade and value. Here is my official post for a trade Please only respond to my trade offer there...here is just information only.   Edited by KurtS
01/23/2008 1:29 pm
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I would say that the A is pointing between denticles.
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I would say that the A is pointing between denticles.
Really? Well that would make a lousy trade for somebody.  I'll double check that. So here's my verification. The first photo is a detail on the coin I attributed (correctly) as a '49 to denticle:  And here's the control sample: a '49 off-denticle:  Granted, I have been wrong about the denticle thing in the past, which is why I triple check my results now. I'm not about to make a bad trade for anyone. Edited by KurtS
01/23/2008 12:59 pm
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It clearly goes in between denticles. Not exactly in the middle, in the close up pics it is closer to the right denticle than the left. Still if I bought this as the "point to" variety, I would have been disappointed and would certainly try to return it to the seller.
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yup you're right. I had to count from a known denticle and go denticle, space, denticle until I got to the one in question. To my eyed it was like one of those optical illusion things where the spaces looked like denticles, then you look at it again and it is normal.
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It clearly goes in between denticles.
Regarding the first coin, I think I've documented the "A to denticle" quite clearly against the "off-denticle" control sample. I have no doubt ICCS would confirm this, as I also own a copy they verified. Numismat--you might like to consult Charest's book, as it clearly shows the position of both versions which agree with my photos. And I'll just say this--if you cannot confirm a positive, you can be just as fooled as someone paying good money for '49 "off-denticle". It also seems quite a few people are confused about the 1965 1c V3 vs V4  As a final confirmation, here's a photo excerpt from Pierre Charest's great book "Canadian Coins and their varieties". Here, Mr. Charest calls the "A to denticles" as "high relief".  Well, I hope these questions help educate people on the two versions. Edited by KurtS
01/23/2008 1:58 pm
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It clearly goes in between denticles. Not exactly in the middle, in the close up pics it is closer to the right denticle than the left. Still if I bought this as the "point to" variety, I would have been disappointed and would certainly try to return it to the seller.
I think you were fooled by the lighting as I was. This is definitely an A pointing to a denticle as Kurt has pointed out. |
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Thanks Chrycopaul for your confirmation! |
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I have to agree with KurtS. It is "ON denticle". I use a protractor, on the base of the "A", anf the perpendicular line thry the apex does set on the denticle.. The problem is that there are so many denticles, and spaces that it is quite confusing, unless one is able to isolate the item one is searching for.
Dick
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Wait , so are the little stubs in the first close up pic the denticles or spaces?
Now I am confused =)
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Yep, the lighting can be tricky and confusing in photos. But, once you know what to look for it's easy to see on your own coins. Congrats on finding your own '49! |
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Numismat, I think you and I have the same problem: We look at a photo, and it has one appearance, and look again, it has changed! The only thing I can suggest is that it is an optical illusion, that gives us this pair of views. I imagine there are many more with the same condition. It is almost liken tho not being able to see the forest for the trees! How ever, I used a "tri-square", and yes it IS on dentical. High relief> Hope this helps.
Dick
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