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Great Southern Coins Fake 1909 S On Ebay?

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This used to be a reputable dealer on ebay, but they recently have been called out selling a fake CC Morgan, and fake 1909 S VDB. I believe this coin to be altered as well. Mint mark placement looks way off to me. Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-S-Linc...291616163486?

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Dang. From a "reputable" dealer. Not buying from them if these coins keep slipping through their hands. The MM looks added somehow. Doesn't look like a real punched S. Maybe I'm wrong?
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Does look a little too much to the periphery.
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I wouldn't touch that coin.
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Looks like GSC got a new Chinese supplier lol. But seriously, what the heck have they been thinking. Honestly, this baffles me. Only 40 mins left on this one
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Their neutral and negative feedback tells a sad story.
I wouldn't touch that faked cent.
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I emailed the seller and told him that he had a counterfeit coin. He never responded. Bizarre that a long time seller on ebay, would let their reputation go down in flames like that.
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Sold!
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He might be a long time seller. but I never liked the looks of their coins. time to stay away from GSC. I agree MM looks off.
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You guys are crying "Wolf!" again. Here is a 1909 S that sold on Heritage whose mintmark location matches the GSC coin.

http://coins.ha.com/itm/lincoln-cen...bnail-071515

Please do your homework before you call something fake, please.
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Side-by-side comparisson.

GSC Coin:

Great-Southern-Coins--Fake-1909-S-On-Ebay?

Heritage Coin:

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And a few more:

Great-Southern-Coins--Fake-1909-S-On-Ebay?

Great-Southern-Coins--Fake-1909-S-On-Ebay?

GSC coin rotated for easier comparison:

Great-Southern-Coins--Fake-1909-S-On-Ebay?

And some more:

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Then why do we see other certified 1909 S coins on ebay with different mint mark positions? GSC's track record is not stellar, and they have been called out on previous fake or altered coins being sold on ebay
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Because more than one obverse die was used in the making of 1909 S cents. Remember, the mintmark was hand-punched into the die, so the MM location will vary.
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Quote:
Please do your homework before you call something fake, please.


I saw this last night and didn't report it because I wasn't convinced just from the MM location. I'm glad I didn't.
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Interesting discusion.
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