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Where did the term "plug nickle" come from....?
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Some coins had small amounts of silver surrounded by base metal. This was done to provide a proper bullion to face value ratio. Removing the precious metal (silver) "plug" from the coin, leaving it as a base metal (nickel or copper usually) was called "plugged". Therefor the remaining low-value disk was called a "Plugged Nickel", indicating a worthless device.
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I believe that in the United States the term was coined back early in the last century. People learned you could take common and very cheap tokens that were intended for nickelodeons and various vending machines and fill the center hole with lead to fool other machines into accepting them as nickels. These other machines were typically pay telephones and the owners of the telephone lost half this sum since they split proceeds with the phoine companies. To combat this phone owners bought complex token acceptors that would only work with a very complexly shaped token that was sold by the hotel for 5c. There are some 700 different of these telephone tokens and almost all from Illinois with the bulk from Chicago.

It's not unusual to still see these alterred "plugged nickels" in large accumulations of tokens. Most I've seen are large holed Mills Vending tokens, which if I recall, were made and used chiefly in Chicago. My experience here is pretty limited though. I'm more familiar with the phone tokens.

The phone tokens are really interesting. Many had mintages of only 1000 and the attrition on them has simply been staggering. Huge numbers were melted in the scrap drives of WWII and unless you know what they are they look like just a piece of junk metal so are often discarded. I collected them a couple years before I even knew what they were. There are only a handful of collectors. It wouldn't surprise me if only about half a million of all 700 designs exist and some of these are extremely rare or unique.

I suppose the "plug nickels" get even less love than the phone tokens though. I never even thought of saving them before now.
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Google sure didn't want to agree with that lasrt response.

I guess it's multiple origins for the term. "Don't take any wooden nickels" and "plugged nickels" might have been used concurrently with similar meanings and forgotten. There are other possibilities as well but I doubt my sources are completely wrong since they are first hand accounts. I might even have a newspaper article from the '30's describing the problem.
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cladking, n9jig - thanks for input!

both terms are curious as they refer to "nickles" which apparently had far more significance a few years ago than they do in this day & age.....

it just seems like a great deal of work and trouble to go to for so little reward....

was there ever such a thing as a wooden nickle?
how does one create a wooden nickle?

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"Nickels" used to refer to the original Flying Eagle cent (AKA Penny) that was made of a copper-nickel alloy (88/12) and had a more pale appearance than the copper large cents they replaced and the copper-tin bronze that replace it. Later 3-cent coins made of a 75/25 copper-nickel alloy were also called "nickels".

Eventually the silver 5-cent coin was supplanted and later replaced by the same 75/25 copper-nickel alloy we have now, with a silver appearance and took over the name of "Nickel" which it retains today.
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The first wooden nickels are attributed to 1939 Tenino, Washington IMS. These were thin sheets of wood that were printed in ink and were good for 5c. It was a little later that wooden discs appeared usually with an indian on one side like the Buffalo nickel. These were often offered in lieu of a nickel but redemption could be difficult enough that the advice not to accept them was wise.

During the depression 5c was a lot of money. ...espoecially to the many not working.
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