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1917 DDO 1936 DDO LWC

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Are the 2 device the result of improper cleaning?






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Are you sure they are DDO's?
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Are you sure they are DDO's?

Was wondering the same thing... from here they dont look like DDO's, IMHO...
Better pics needed.
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Sure, the 1936 is DDO-001 check out lincoln resource 1936 DDO-001 imqges. Use my photo "click enlarge" match die markers.... I have six in total: 1 1936 DDO-001, 2 1936 DDO-002 and 3 1936 DDO-003. Sure, 1917-DDO.

After all still I wonder are both device the result of improper cleaning?
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We cannot answer your question without better pictures.

These look like they are silver in color.
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Better pics!

Also, these coins are not DDO's from what I can see... Dont get your hopes up too high. Post close ups of the "doubled" devices.
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See the broken R in LIBERTY? You don't see it like that on the doubled dies. On the 1936 doubled die with the broken R, one of the engravings has it so it appears as a thin leg. Yours has no leg.
I know you are convinced that these coins and the many others you have are all doubled dies, but I don't think you realize what a doubled die is.
Better pictures won't change what the coins are.
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The hub had a deteriorating leg on it that year. there are several dies that show this. Some with varieties, some without.
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Thank you, Coop! See, fella's he's a person with great observation.. Cwb, do you see the difference? Notice, Coop here never makes confirmation on any device with out documents, enlisted records, facts to his "Claim" that is unless the fact is already obvious.. Cwb, please don't misunderstand I mean no offense I'm simply making a point here. I understand where you're coming from and I'm appreciated I'm sure you just want to help but you and EVERYONE must understand that if you're going to make a conviction on anything you must have something to back it up documents anything official to support your claim... You said so yourself "He's convinced they're varieties" sure, why not I may be wrong "unconvince" me it's not impossible I've changed my mind been unconvinced many times before. I cant speak for others but for myself if I'm already convinced on something decided already I'm sorry but if you feel your conviction is greater and more accurate than mine by all means prove it? Just experience and words alone is not goin to be enough. I'm sorry if I offended anyone I apologize I'm just making a point.

I applaud those who can make confirmation on the subject of speaking in such confidence with so little data this amazes me so much that I may just concur with the majority.

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Cwb, because I value your comments.

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If Coop say's they're not DDO's DDO's they're not... I'll trust his judgement on this one considering the odds...
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I'm just wondering what's with the color of these coins.
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These are not doubled die coins.
Send them to a third party grading company.
One of the hubs for the 1936 cents had a broken R in LIBERTY, so many of the 1936 cents will show the broken R. Three of the major 1936 doubled dies were made with this hub and a non broken hub. So like I said in the last post, they will show a thin leg.
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This is a quick photoshop job, but maybe it will help explain what I am trying to say.



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Sorry Medalmind, your 1917 is not a doubled die. On the big 1917 DDO the point in the curve of the 9 is completely split and I am not seeing that on your coin. Also, back to your original question - the coin does have evidence of a really abrasive cleaning.
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Cwb, please don't misunderstand I mean no offense I'm simply making a point here.

I am not offended at all, I am trying to help.
I think what you are trying to do is get anyone to say these coins are doubled dies. There are many very experienced coin people here and I don't think any of them are going to agree with you that either of these coins are doubled dies.
If their experience still isn't enough for you, just send them in for verification.
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