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1744 Liard From Liege

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An interesting 18th century copper coin that survived all these years without really circulating.

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A very nice coin, and as you say, incredibly well preserved. I have never seen one in that conditions before.
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Very very nice!
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Beautiful. I love french copper.
But every time I look at one like this my bank account picks up a bat and dares me
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It's a single year issue as indicated by 'sede vacante' (empty seat) and this coin isn't french. Liège was an independent state ruled by a Prince-Bishop. A new one was to be appointed in 1744. Liège was bordering the Austrian Netherlands to the north and Duchy of Luxemburg to the south, both of which were part of the Holy Roman Empire.

http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17529.html
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Thanks for the link Gwyde!

This coin was in actuality minted for less than a year. 1744 issues of the Liard were also minted under the new ruler John Theodore, and of those, there were two distinct types, one with the date on the obverse and one on the reverse.
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1744 issues of the Liard were also minted under the new ruler John Theodore, and of those, there were two distinct types, one with the date on the obverse and one on the reverse.

Indeed, I've got a (lousy) 1744 minted under John Theodore of Bavaria with the date on the reverse (separate digits in four quadrants):
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22120.html

Liège as an independant state ceased to exist as the french revolution spilled over its borders and Napoleon started expanding the empire.

Quite remarkably, this coin has remained legal tender under successive governments:

1796-1815: under French rule, used as 2 centimes of a franc.
1815-1830: under Dutch rule, used as 1 cent of a guilder.
1830-1840; under Belgian rule, again used as 2 centimes of a Belgian franc.
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For this type of coin to be legal tender still 100 years after it was minted, and through 4 different governments, is pretty incredible! I am now even more amazed at the condition of this coin. Thanks again for the additional info Gwyde! Fascinating history.
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