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1919 Toned Sl Quarter

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I may or may not own this in a few hours. Whaddya think?


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 Posted 10/19/2005  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stephen

Is this coin raw ?

Its a beauty !!! Looks MS-67-68 to me !!

Love the toning !! although I do know folks that wouldnt grade it above a 65 because of it !!

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I'd call it MS65. I think I see a small hit on the eagle. It looks like it has a fully struck head, though. What a beautiful coin! Did you end up purchasing it?
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It was late last night when I looked at this coin!

But the details of this coin are so sharp ,and I dont see the hit on the eagle? If your seeing the area on the leading edge of the wing, I dont think its a hit!

The head of liberty is so detailed in the pic I can only guess what it looks like in hand, full hand on liberty, this coin goes well above a 65.

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It was the leading edge of the wing I was looking at. If it's not a hit, it may go as high as 67 with a Full Head designation.
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quote:
Originally posted by Susanlynn9

I'd call it MS65. I think I see a small hit on the eagle. It looks like it has a fully struck head, though. What a beautiful coin! Did you end up purchasing it?



No, the bidding got out of hand. This was a lot in Stacks 70th Anniversary Sale. I live in mid-town Manhattan. The auction took place just a few blocks from my home, so I went to see the coin at Stacks, also a few blocks in another direction, where the lots were on hand, and was going to go to the auction just to check it out, but I didn't for some reason. (Sometimes it's really cool living at the center of the universe). They had online bidding until 8:00 this morning, so I checked when I woke up and it had gotten out from under me. Don't know what it finally went for, prices haven't been posted yet, but it was pretty seriously out of my range by 6:30 this morning. But I'm glad to have seen it. I really took my breath away. The photos are beautiful, but the luster is much stronger in hand.

BTW, the coin is raw. Stacks graded it CHOICE BU, which, by their standards translates to somewhere between MS63-65 according to their published standards. It's interesting to note this distinction from the ANA standards. If you're used to thinking exclusively about the 1-70 system, the grades may seem ridiculously low in translation. The bottom line is, if you love the coin and you can afford to buy it, it doesn't matter where the grade might somehow objectively fall.
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I have no Idea what stacks grading criteria is, so I guess I dont know what the grade of the coin would actually be !!

By ANA Standards I still believe the coin would grade 67 possibly 68.

Oh well!!

Rick
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Originally posted by Metalman

I have no Idea what stacks grading criteria is, so I guess I dont know what the grade of the coin would actually be !!

By ANA Standards I still believe the coin would grade 67 possibly 68.

Oh well!!

Rick



Well, since you asked (copied and pasted from their website):

For uncirculated coins, Stack's/Coin Galleries uses what is called Comparative Grading Language. The rough equivalents of these comparative grades to the MS scale are as follows:

Brilliant Uncirculated is at least MS-60 and means that it is probable that the coin has not entered general circulation; the coin may have heavy contact marks, noticeable hairlines and have original luster (or be impaired). It is the lowest state of preservation of uncirculated coins.

Choice Brilliant Uncirculated is at least MS-63, which means that it has more attractive eye appeal than an MS-60, may have original or slightly impaired luster, may have a few scattered hairlines or even a small patch of hairlines; and may have some distracting contact marks in the field or design.

Gem Brilliant Uncirculated is at least MS-65 and has very pleasing eye appeal (more so than an MS-63) and full lustre. It may have a few scattered hairlines and may also have a minimal number of contact marks. Scuffmarks may show.

It should be understood by all that grading is a subjective art and that others may differ from these interpretations.

Stack's/Coin Galleries does not represent that any coin catalogued will meet the standards, or the grade, of any third party or third party grading service.

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