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Hello everyone. I just picked this up today and need some experts opinions on its authentication. Everything checks out (size, diameter, weight, alignment) but the more I look at the spot on her neck coming out of the ribbon, it makes me worry. Also what do you think it would grade. Thank you for any input!   Edited by keepcalmandcoinon
12/05/2015 3:59 pm
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I don't see anything that stands out as fake. Some mere scratches, but like you said, everything else checks out alright so I think yours is authentic  |
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Canada
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That's an odd one. I'm torn. I see A vf 30-35 NGC PCGS details if genuine. The leaf wreath bothers me. Devices are not as sharp as they should be. Spot on the neck is strange. The die would have to have been damaged. Not easy on hard dies., something that would have indented the die to leave raised mark on neck. The denticles look ok, which is a sign it's genuine. I don't like the wear on the side of head, or necklace beads near the back of neck. doesn't look like general circulation wear. Almost looks like the typical fake feature, when copies are made, they make dies from a lightly circulated coin and produce coins from those dies.  don't like the acorn in the wreath either to the bottom right on the reverse. My gut says not genuine, I also don't like the ruddy surfaces. It could have sat in the ground which created enviro damages to the surface. It's a 50/50, until someone more knowledgable comes along I'll say not genuine. Edited by Alan
12/05/2015 7:18 pm
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Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.
So we've got one that says it looks ok, another that says 50/50. Any other opinions?
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United States
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Update: that thing on her neck is actually a piece of thread on the outer plastic. Didn't notice til I got a better look at the coin at home or of the flip. It's nowhere to be seen on the coin in person.
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Canada
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I'm referring to the raised part below the ear on the neck behind the jaw. It's raised so that means the die itself that struck the coin would have to have been indented by mistake, unintentionally, because it's not the intended design. That doesn't sit well with me.it also has what appears to be a "sandy or porous" finish, when it should be smooth under a loupe. Check it. The lettering isn't as sharp as it should be either. Unless the appearance,is from it being in the ground for years. But I'm still leaning towards well made fake. It is a scarce coin in decent shape.
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I think keepcalm. is saying the 'neck bump' is a thread and shadow of a thread rather than on the coin Alan. A whim of the photography. As it is I'd call it a (British) nVF. A little better than the examples here: http://www.cgbfr.com/boutique,modernes.htmlI see nothing that makes me think it's not genuine. But I'm not an expert on the series. . |
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Alan, that is what I was referring to as well. After getting home yesterday and looking at the coin itself, and not just the picture, I realized it was something on the outside of the flip. I'll get better pics loaded tonight with some direct lighting. These photos were taken outside at about 9 in the morning so I think the lighting is paying tricks. It was with me at least. But after careful examination I'm about 98% certain it's genuine. Thanks again everyone for your input
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That explains it, was wondering how that could happen. Sometimes pics can play tricks. It's good to examine closely because there are so many fakes out there. Look at the lettering closely, a coin such as this with relatively minimal wear should have sharp devices. Also Look at the surfaces of the coin. If it has a sandy/grainy surface, that could imply not genuine or environmental damage from being in the ground for years. best of luck. Will check back in. If it is not genuine, it's a really alarmingly good copy. Leaning more towards genuine now too, but it's good to be skeptical. Doesn't hurt:)
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