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Finding Counterfeit Coins In Circulation

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 Posted 01/27/2008  08:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Firecom911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

When half dollars still circulated widely I found a total of three counterfeit half dollars over about a three year period of time.
Two Walkers and one Franklin.
They were all found while doing roll searches.

The Walkers were both dated in the forties, and appeared to be cast out of pot metal or something. They weren't hideously poor counterfeits...they would probably have fooled a non-coin person or a cashier, but a collector would have alerted on them pretty quick.

They were heavier than aluminum, but lighter than a silver coin.
The metal was hard and a dull gray in color.
The reeding and devices were not sharp as in a struck coin, and looking closely with the naked eye you could see minute air pockets in the surface.

The Franklin was a different story...a much better counterfeit.
The weight was close enough so that you couldn't tell by holding it.
The color was a little off...kind of a bluish-silver. The devices and reeding were pretty sharp, and the fields were smooth. The metal was soft and with firm pressure you could indent it slightly with your fingernail.

What alerted me on the Franklin was the sound it made on the desk top. It made a TERRIBLE sound!...flat and dull, not at all like the resonant ring of a silver coin.

So, have any of you folks ever found counterfeit coins in circulation?
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 Posted 01/27/2008  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very interesting. I don't understand why anyone would counterfeit common date coins- not worth the money and time.

The only counterfeit I've gotten, and I kept it as a conversation piece, is a 1944 no mint mark Jefferson nickel. It is most likely a 1941 that was sodered to a 1944.
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 Posted 01/27/2008  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Firecom911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeiting half dollars back in the forties would have been profitable.
A half dollar back then would buy what would cost about $6.00 today.

At one time there was something in the RedBook about somebody in the forties or fifties making a bunch of counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickels.

I can't imagine anyone making counterfeit nickels. Geez!
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I have a 1970something Lincoln Memorial cent that I beleive is a fake. It only weighs about 1.5 grams and it's porous and the wrong color, more like a zinc without the copper plating.
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 Posted 01/27/2008  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gene Carr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my counterfeit collection is a 1917 Walker....made of lead!

Does anyone else know of these?
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What a cool find! A friend showed me some American counterfeits yesterday, and I was surprised how obvious they are.
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01/27/2008 12:34 pm
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I have a counterfeit 1964 Lincoln Cent that I obtained from a fllow board member a while back. Very crude copy, I can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would try to copy a Lincoln Memorial.
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At one time Lead alloy types were common in halves. Tin, Zinc or even Copper were mixed with Lead and coins were made. Most were half dollars but also quarters, nickels and even some Silver Dollars. It is obvious the majority of people on these forums think of pennies and nickels as almost worthless. When I was a kid my parents sent me to a neighborhood store with possibly $2. That would be for a gallon of milk, loaf of bread, lunch meat for the entire week, mustard, ketchup, a possilbe few candy bars snuk in so not noticed. Eventually I would come home with two large, almost shopping bag sized bags that I could hardly carry. And all for a few dollars. Gas for your car was about $0.22/gallon. A fake half dollar was a lot of money.
Counterfeiteing any coin was profitable. Many founderies, factories, etc would make some. Way, way back then there were phone boths everywhere and a call was $0.05. Those machines went by sound of coin being put in the slots. Many people had counterfeit coin/washers made to match a Nickel sized coin for just that reason.
The best one was the people that knew about the sound only and just used tuning forks. Great for long distance calls when the operator said please put in $xxxx you would just keep on tranging the tuning fork by the mouth peice.
Naturally not me. Others that were not as honest as me of course.
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i see plastic coins and sometimes pewter replicas at the bank I work at but never anything fancy
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