Crown Sized And Reeded Edge 20 Cash Xuantong

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0xDA71D Pillar of the Community United States 1215 Posts	Posted 12/19/2015 11:09 pm I have just found this coin on ebay. I have identified it as a Chinese empire 1909 20 cash coin. However, it looks quite broadstruck and even has a REEDED edge. I have never seen such a coin in a catalog. Can anyone attribute it here? My instinct tells me it's fake (maybe struck in a dollar sized collar), but then again, most Chinese mints during the late Qing dynasty produced low quality coins and are prone to errors. If this were a legitimate mint error, it would make for a peculiar piece. UPDATE: http://www.coinworld.com/news/world...s--70-8.html Edited by 0xDA71D 12/20/2015 12:17 am Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 12/20/2015 12:47 am My first instinct is 'mint trial' or 'mint sport', much like the 1913 Liberty head nickel. Either way, I don't think it is an unintended error. Copper or bronze planchet for a Chinese silver dollar, struck in a silver dollar collar, but with the dies for a 20 cash coin. Without the collar, it would have been broadstruck. My second instinct is that I am wrong. Why? I have never read or heard of such a concoction. ? What is the diameter and weight? Edited by sel_69l 12/20/2015 12:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
0xDA71D Pillar of the Community United States 1215 Posts	Posted 12/20/2015 12:51 am http://www.coinworld.com/news/world...s--70-8.html I see a positive match between the coin in question and this one. However, I have serious doubts on its authenticity. Report this Post to the Staff
coinworldtv Pillar of the Community Austria 566 Posts	Posted 12/20/2015 11:34 am Nothing positive here. It is a cheap fake! There are no crown-sized 20 cash coins and there will never be, at least not authentic ones. Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 12/20/2015 5:07 pm Genuine mint sports coins do exist but this is not one of them. Poor details gave it straight away. While you might be able to claim that the quality of Chinese coins were not great, I suggest you own a few copper coins to start off with. These can be bought at a few dollars. The quality of Chinese coins were not that bad by the early 1900s. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 12/21/2015 9:19 pm I agree the coin is a poorly executed forgery. There was a series of oversized coins that had a wide margin between the edge of the die face and the edge of the planchet. That wide margin was used for lettering explaining that the coin should not circulate. These were produced anonymously as warnings about counterfeits that should not circulate. I have several for the silver series but have not seen one for the copper coins. Perhaps some forger learned about this series and was trying to make something that could pass as a trial strike. In any even the design on the dies is wrong. Interesting but of low actual value. Report this Post to the Staff
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