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I post these to create discussion. seller says the whole reverse is gold plated rather than just selective plating, as issued. I'm unsure of the mint's process for plating. I don't know the technique they use. The reason I posted this is, wouldn't it be somewhat easy to add a little gold plate here and there by electroplating, thus fraudulently creating "errors" and "varieties" and potential value? I know that any mint issue selective gold plate coins I've ever Bought are all consistent, exactly the same, and done to perfection. 252214589588Edited by Alan
12/21/2015 12:45 am
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If it's a post mint plating, I would think it would lack the cameo appearance of a proof coin. I'm not sure about it.
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If this coin was struck on a gold planchet, it would be cool, but as mentioned someone or a jeweler could easily gold plate one side of this coin.
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personally I wouldn't buy an "error" coin unless it is graded by a reputable and professional coin grading company
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I can't comment on the possibility of it being a legitimate error but I would say that error NCLT have a very limited market and I wouldn't pay a premium for one in most cases. The exception would be something that's a straight forward mule like the no edge lettering Calgary $20 coins. Or maybe a die rotation.
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Interesting, if authentic, but it is also something that can be recreated after the coin has left the mint...
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I think it is too obvious an error to pass by RCM inspection. Anyone putting the coin into capsules or cases will see the difference right away. |
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I would be surprised to find that the SD in question was produced in error by the RCM. I believe that the coin listed started life as a normal selectively gold-plated SD from the 2013 Fine Silver Proof Set and that its "all over" gold plating was added to it after it left the Mint. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Personally I would not consider this kind of coin an error, unless graded by a reputable authority. Below is a real, legitimate NCLT error you don't need an authority to certify:  |
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wow, that is really interesting. double struck, first strike off center? According to mint videos on 'how it's made' etc, the proofs are individually fed in and double struck by an employee; then gets plated? Head scratcher how that one got out. Neat find!
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My understanding is the Oh Canada, Birthday, Baby, Wedding sets, etc. are put together by a third party company, to save cost as such really could care less about quality of the coins. This cool nickel may have been produced in Winnipeg on the regular high speed presses.
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Below is a real, legitimate NCLT error you don't need an authority to certify:  What we see looks like the epoxy coating was poorly applied, or shrunken (from the top), because other elements in the lower portion of the reverse show no evidence of a "shift". That said, it does look slightly off-centre though, is the obverse the same? "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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These were issued in 2006 mint report, in a little hard plastic capsule. I don't think there is epoxy on the surface? I'm seeing a previously struck coin, first strike is most prominent in lowest points, 9 to 11 o clock. Need obverse pics to be sure.
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12/24/2015 02:02 am
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These were issued in 2006 mint report, in a little hard plastic capsule. Nope, not these. They were coated in a hard epoxy, just like the 2005 Poppy bookmarks and the 2006 proof Olympic loon bookmark. This one looks like the epoxy was subjected to a heat source, and shrank a bit. Look at 12 o'clock on the reverse. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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