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Fake Slabbed Gold Indian Eagle?

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 Posted 12/23/2015  11:36 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What is "puttied"?


The application of material(s) to the surface of a coin usually done just prior to submission for TPG in order to hide contact marks, scuffs, abrasions, etc. It often turns a whitish color later after TPG.
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 Posted 12/23/2015  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I think the weird circle he sees is the one near the letters and rim on the actual coin. It is the reflection from the radials on a slightly worn die.
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 Posted 12/23/2015  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the consensus is that it's probably real with an altered surface. Should it be in a righteous holder or a details holder? Did PCGS realize it was altered, so they gave it ms62 as a "this is what it should be worth marketwise" grade?
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 Posted 12/23/2015  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks to everyone for your opinions!
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It's most likely real. Keep in mind, this was in the early days of PCGS when they hardly knew what the heck they were doing, LOL. They undergraded all the time.
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Looks real to me, and many Indian eagles show some strike weakness in the obverse center. It's possible this piece was "thumbed" or otherwise treated in hopes of a higher grade but overall nothing seems drastically out of order for a legit MS-62 1910-D.

Coins in PCGS "old green holders" are often suspected of being undergraded. The owner could always crack this one out, soak and rinse it in acetone to remove foreign substances, and resubmit. The potential sale value would jump significantly if it upgraded to 63.
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Should it be in a righteous holder or a details holder?

No it shouldn't be in a probem free older. At the time the con was slabbed it if it had been noticed it would have been bodybagged as an altered coin. Today you might get a details holder or it might be bodybagged because of the altering substance adhering to the surfaces.

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As Conder101 said and IMO from 1986 and many years after plenty of A/S coins were being slabbed. It is a learning process - EVEN FOR the "experts" who started the slab services. In 1987 at a major coin show I examined a $5 and $10 Liberty slabbed by one of them that the dealer claimed were finest graded! MS-66 or 67's I don't remember BUT both coins were awesome blazers w/virtually perfect glowing gold surfaces ...and BUFFED!

Many gold coins in early slabs have a blue "cast" from the chemical changing. Thankfully, today many of the "doctors" are known and the services are better educated. Now all they need to do is decide on a coin for coin basis how much A/S is allowed :)for straight grades.
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